Pre-nup

Peder said:
the thing is its a choice i can't force my wife to be to do that but i will definately from my side do that, to show that i want to keep my covenant with her till death do us part, if she chooses otherwise then i guess i can't do anything provided i love her enough...
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Your wife WILL cause the divorce ;)
 
Peder said:
I guess sometimes it makes sense to go out of community of property...

But i think if divorce weren't so easy divorce wouldn't happen as much
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Divorce is not that easy. But better divorce than people who hate each other living together spending their days shouting and throwing things at each other.

Picard said:
Out of community with or without accruel always feels to me like you're sending the message that you don't have enough trust in your relationship to entrust all you have with it.
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It is sensibly protecting assets you have spent years building. I'm thankful we have the option. If I lived in the UK my partner could fleece me and there would be nothing I could do. The fact is that even nice people can become incredibly malicious when a marriage fails.

Peder said:
must be easy enough if 50% of people are getting divorced
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Maybe what we should be doing is discouraging people from getting married.
 
n2t said:
What the advantages o disadvantages of : ANC, out of community of property, with accrual
I too have to go this route soon!
Been meaning to see whats what
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One day in the future when things are going well and then suddenly Schit hits the fan the ANC can be your economic survival.
If married in community the sharks may empty your total collection of property, house, furniture, cars, clothes, food... everything, even the wife and kids prized possessions. But when they come and you say "Cheese- ANC" All this belongs to my wife/kids then they run with tail between legs!! That advantage (own experience) means a lot and that excludes the dirt when you one day have to get divorced. So many years ago my preacher advised me to go ANC as he remarried many couples as they got divorced so they could be married under ANC at the time.
 
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fastesthamster said:
It's more a case of not being liable for your partner's debts. With accrual gives you all the benefits of "in community of property" without any of the drawbacks. It's really up to you what you choose to exclude or not.
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+1

You don't want one estate for the two of you - stupid. ANC with accrual is completely fair, with the additional benefit of being able to structure between two estates. Absolutely the way to go.

ANC without accrual, well that's something else...
 
fastesthamster said:
So, do I need supporting documentation? Can I just print out the last statement I have for stock and investments? Does my R3k current credit card bill count as a liability even though it'll be paid in full by the end of the month?

Who's done this before and has the low down?
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I guess it might depend on the lawyer and your fiance/fiancée.
I just made a list of what I believe my current estate and things were worth. My wife did the same. We both agree'ed on both of the lists and the values were added into the pre-nup.. Done deal
 
Kalvaer said:
I guess it might depend on the lawyer and your fiance/fiancée.
I just made a list of what I believe my current estate and things were worth. My wife did the same. We both agree'ed on both of the lists and the values were added into the pre-nup.. Done deal
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Well, we had the meeting this morning. Quick and easy. Similar to yours, just agreed on the list and values.
 
Good to hear it all went smoothly, and hope you never have to actually go through the process of pulling it out. Nobody ever wants to, But we have to be realistic as well in todays world. SH** does happen


Congrats as well BTW.
 
Peder said:
the thing is its a choice i can't force my wife to be to do that but i will definately from my side do that, to show that i want to keep my covenant with her till death do us part, if she chooses otherwise then i guess i can't do anything provided i love her enough...
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While that's admirable of you, I really don't think you'll need to once you believe you've found the right person...;)
 
Peder said:
the thing is its a choice i can't force my wife to be to do that but i will definately from my side do that, to show that i want to keep my covenant with her till death do us part, if she chooses otherwise then i guess i can't do anything provided i love her enough...
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Sounds like u havent been kicked in the crotch yet by a woman.... this is the problem with twilight movies, its all this undying love that will last eternity garbage.... life is long my friend (u might find out how long if you marry the wrong person), and loving someone for the entire time AND still wanting to spend the rest of your life with that person is something that happens exceptionally rarely.

Not trying to dampen ur spirits here, and if u find it then ur a lucky guy, but realistically, the chance of u loving the person you marry till death do u part is slim.
 
Peder said:
must be easy enough if 50% of people are getting divorced, maybe i live in a perfect world but i can't find a reason for someone to break a covenant...
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How many serious long term (Or in your case even short term) relationships have you been in?

I ask because anyone who has ever been in a relatioship knows that the ideal world doesn't exist. People make mistakes, fall out of love, outgrow their partners, etc.

An ANC is a must these days.

Peder said:
the thing is its a choice i can't force my wife to be to do that but i will definately from my side do that, to show that i want to keep my covenant with her till death do us part, if she chooses otherwise then i guess i can't do anything provided i love her enough...
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It's people like you who typically end up getting divorced. You've got to get out of your little fantasy bubble. There is so much more to a serious relationship than love. You have to be realistic.

You aren't still a virgin are you?
 
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Peder said:
I guess sometimes it makes sense to go out of community of property...

But i think if divorce weren't so easy divorce wouldn't happen as much, personally i would put a clause in my marriage registration making me lose EVERYTHING the day i divorce my wife or if she divorces me she loses EVERYTHING, it must almost be a thing of i don't want to even keep it in the back of my mind...
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So what if she cheats on you and you want a divorce?
 
Antenup isn't worth the paper it's written on...ask any good divorce attorney.
 
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