Prepaid Electricity rip-off.

:eek: WTF are you single people using so much electricity on.
The electricity in my area is expensive.

I think I am spending R600pm on electricity cos I am germaphobic, do hot wash cycles, use a dishwasher regularly and exclusively use a tumble dryer to dry my clothes.

My friend lives in the same area, lives alone & spends about the same amount. He uses a washing machine & condenser tumble dryer.

There is a heatpump geyser in the unit &
Gas Stove.
Condenser tumble dryer


Will a timer on a heat pump geyser make a difference?

I guess i can do cold washes but hate germs.

Eco on diswasher is 50 degrees but takes forever to end.

Might get a clothes horse if it makes a difference.
 
The electricity in my area is expensive.

I think I am spending R600pm on electricity cos I am germaphobic, do hot wash cycles, use a dishwasher regularly and exclusively use a tumble dryer to dry my clothes.

My friend lives in the same area, lives alone & spends about the same amount. He uses a washing machine & condenser tumble dryer.

There is a heatpump geyser in the unit &
Gas Stove.
Condenser tumble dryer


Will a timer on a heat pump geyser make a difference?

I guess i can do cold washes but hate germs.

Eco on diswasher is 50 degrees but takes forever to end.

Might get a clothes horse if it makes a difference.

Tumble dryers kills electricity, also a hot wash for clothes isn't good for clothes.. Maybe get better soap and do a cold wash. Don't worry abt the dishwasher this is where I also just use the hottest setting. The combo of hot wash and tumble dryer must really be doing a number on your clothes tho...

Don't know exactly how heat pumps work so cant comment there. But with your electricity usage described I'm not surprised its R600 a month.
 
The electricity in my area is expensive.

I think I am spending R600pm on electricity cos I am germaphobic, do hot wash cycles, use a dishwasher regularly and exclusively use a tumble dryer to dry my clothes.

My friend lives in the same area, lives alone & spends about the same amount. He uses a washing machine & condenser tumble dryer.

There is a heatpump geyser in the unit &
Gas Stove.
Condenser tumble dryer


Will a timer on a heat pump geyser make a difference?

I guess i can do cold washes but hate germs.

Eco on diswasher is 50 degrees but takes forever to end.

Might get a clothes horse if it makes a difference.

Yeesh still one person -:X3: - that tubmle dryer is probably a big user of power.


on your heat pump - i wouldn't put a timer -its meant to run all the time to warm the water but unlike a traditional element that running uses very little electricity - maybe yours has a traditional element as well to heat up water the old way in colder days or if it needs a boost - not sure but then it should have some sort of controller for this?
 
Just some feedback to everyone who took interest:

They sent 2 representatives along with a member of the complex management to meet with me and discuss the charges. They explained that Eskom has varying rates and the solar geysers are drawing backup current that is not metered. Fair enough, I understand that I need to pay for my geysers unmetered usage.

According to the receipts and data they produced: Eskom would send a bill for around R100k for the entire complexes usage, which was around 52 000 kWh. (This is during July winter period). However, the metered usage of all tenants only adds up to around 15 000 kWh. Meaning that they need to recoup their costs from 15 000 kWh measured usage to pay a R100k bill, so they take the easiest way and simply slap on a multipier of 7.58 to achieve this. Sounds good to the layman, but it is incredibly unfair to the end users freedom of choice to use electricity since that multiplier doesn't discriminate what appliances are being used nor does it stop once their "target" has been reached. If I decide to fire up my Playstation for leisure or my high-end PC and server for work, which would normally inflate my bill only marginally, I now have to incur 100's of rands in costs since the flate excessive rate never ceases. When I asked why we can't keep the tariffs at say R2 per unit and then bill me for the remaining unmetered usage, the answers I got that it was "too much admin" and that "it will come to the same thing" or the property owners "won't go for that". It seems CitiQ and the property managers are more concerned with reducing their workload by dictating how you should live instead of providing fair solutions.

Oh well. Welcome to SA. Laziness always takes precedence. Just shut up and pay.
 
Just some feedback to everyone who took interest:

They sent 2 representatives along with a member of the complex management to meet with me and discuss the charges. They explained that Eskom has varying rates and the solar geysers are drawing backup current that is not metered. Fair enough, I understand that I need to pay for my geysers unmetered usage.

According to the receipts and data they produced: Eskom would send a bill for around R100k for the entire complexes usage, which was around 52 000 kWh. (This is during July winter period). However, the metered usage of all tenants only adds up to around 15 000 kWh. Meaning that they need to recoup their costs from 15 000 kWh measured usage to pay a R100k bill, so they take the easiest way and simply slap on a multipier of 7.58 to achieve this. Sounds good to the layman, but it is incredibly unfair to the end users freedom of choice to use electricity since that multiplier doesn't discriminate what appliances are being used nor does it stop once their "target" has been reached. If I decide to fire up my Playstation for leisure or my high-end PC and server for work, which would normally inflate my bill only marginally, I now have to incur 100's of rands in costs since the flate excessive rate never ceases. When I asked why we can't keep the tariffs at say R2 per unit and then bill me for the remaining unmetered usage, the answers I got that it was "too much admin" and that "it will come to the same thing" or the property owners "won't go for that". It seems CitiQ and the property managers are more concerned with reducing their workload by dictating how you should live instead of providing fair solutions.

Oh well. Welcome to SA. Laziness always takes precedence. Just shut up and pay.

So instead of just connecting the geysers to the individual units DB's they charge everyone R7,58 :X3:
 
Just some feedback to everyone who took interest:

They sent 2 representatives along with a member of the complex management to meet with me and discuss the charges. They explained that Eskom has varying rates and the solar geysers are drawing backup current that is not metered. Fair enough, I understand that I need to pay for my geysers unmetered usage.

According to the receipts and data they produced: Eskom would send a bill for around R100k for the entire complexes usage, which was around 52 000 kWh. (This is during July winter period). However, the metered usage of all tenants only adds up to around 15 000 kWh. Meaning that they need to recoup their costs from 15 000 kWh measured usage to pay a R100k bill, so they take the easiest way and simply slap on a multipier of 7.58 to achieve this. Sounds good to the layman, but it is incredibly unfair to the end users freedom of choice to use electricity since that multiplier doesn't discriminate what appliances are being used nor does it stop once their "target" has been reached. If I decide to fire up my Playstation for leisure or my high-end PC and server for work, which would normally inflate my bill only marginally, I now have to incur 100's of rands in costs since the flate excessive rate never ceases. When I asked why we can't keep the tariffs at say R2 per unit and then bill me for the remaining unmetered usage, the answers I got that it was "too much admin" and that "it will come to the same thing" or the property owners "won't go for that". It seems CitiQ and the property managers are more concerned with reducing their workload by dictating how you should live instead of providing fair solutions.

Oh well. Welcome to SA. Laziness always takes precedence. Just shut up and pay.
I will force them to install extra power meters
 
probably Would be cheaper and better to each unit to install a seperate meter to each geyser

This is what I was thinking. I'll even pay for the installation of a meter to measure my geysers usage. It need not be

They did say that rewiring the entire unit to fit a prepaid model was far too costly. I really don't think simply intercepting the power supply to my geyser would be that big of a task.
 
This is what I was thinking. I'll even pay for the installation of a meter to measure my geysers usage. It need not be

They did say that rewiring the entire unit to fit a prepaid model was far too costly. I really don't think simply intercepting the power supply to my geyser would be that big of a task.
each geyser should have its own isolator switch , they can't tell you that they take everyone's down if one needs repair
 
How far away is the geysers from your apparent? They can fit a prepaid box at geyser, and a remote recharge terminal in your appartment , extra power need to be spit between everyone via the levy's
 
How far away is the geysers from your apparent? They can fit a prepaid box at geyser, and a remote recharge terminal in your appartment , extra power need to be spit between everyone via the levy's

They're all the solar type that fits on the roof.
 
How far away is the geysers from your apparent? They can fit a prepaid box at geyser, and a remote recharge terminal in your appartment , extra power need to be spit between everyone via the levy's

They're all the solar type that fits on the roof.


Tennant turn around must be high, and i can only imagine how many sales fell through because of this.
I can still understand if you as a tenant just chill and move out asap, but the owners how do they not seemingly have an issue, it boggles the mind.
The AGM must be a fun get together.
 
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We have the block electricity rates which resets the beginning of month I would guess. Thought yesterday was the 1st for some reason and bought the usual R600 electricity, only got 286 units.  :eek::eek: instead of the usually 402 units.:mad:
 
We have the block electricity rates which resets the beginning of month I would guess. Thought yesterday was the 1st for some reason and bought the usual R600 electricity, only got 286 units.  :eek::eek: instead of the usually 402 units.:mad:

Yikes - 24 hours would have made a big difference :(
how long will 286 units last you?
 
Yikes - 24 hours would have made a big difference :(
how long will 286 units last you?

I usually just just make it on 400 units. Sometimes have to buy and extra R100 which gives me a little but extra :sick:. So it will probably last me till just after the 20th. Damn, I'm so angry (I know it was my fault, should have checked the date).
 
I usually just just make it on 400 units. Sometimes have to buy and extra R100 which gives me a little but extra :sick:. So it will probably last me till just after the 20th. Damn, I'm so angry (I know it was my fault, should have checked the date).

400 units that pretty good unless you live alone then WTF.
you should try building up a surplus so you save in winter (when you inevitably spend more).
So say you se 400 units in Summer - purchase say 450 units rather (can be higher but try to keep below the tariff change amount) - then by the time winter comes along you still only buy 450 Units even though you will inevitably use say 600 units - but then you are not charged on the higher rate for the extra usage because it was built up over the year.
I have built up a decent surplus over the last 2 years so i have no need to by extra in winter - though i actually need to recalculate what i buy I kind of went over on my surplus i have like 800 units in credit :X3:- i just used to buy 600 units (because that's where the tariff changed) but i started doing things to cut usage so i can probably work with 550 (maybe 500 even) a month - just need to sit and check my usage patterns and see what i use in summer vs winter to work a decent extra amount to buy.
 
Move out. NERSA are useless. And I am being kind with that description of them.
 
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