Prepare to change your numberplates, again.

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GP gets 'smart' licence plates
Oct 10 2008 21:22
Nicole Rego
Johannesburg - As from January 2009, Gauteng motor vehicles will get new "intelligent" licence plates that will work with the new electronic tolling system planned for the province as part of its transport system overhaul.

The spokesperson for the Gauteng Transport Management Authority (GTMA), Melissa Whitehead, says the province is running out of licence-numbering options, and will use the new licence system as an opportunity to roll out plates with microchips in them.

"Right now, Gauteng lacks an integrated system, even though commuters have a lot of options (taxis, buses and trains)," said Whitehead, adding that there was still not enough public transport and good service all around.

The new plates will comprise two characters, followed by two numbers and then another two characters instead of the current three characters, three numbers.

"So it will be like BB22BB GP," she said, adding that this will give more flexibility in assigning plates to cars than the three-three system.

Illegal number plate sellers, of which there are many in Gauteng, says Whitehead, will either have to close shop or be accredited to sell new plates.

The number plates currently in use will no longer be issued after December 31. Whitehead said vehicle owners don't have to worry about getting the new plates early next year: "People with existing motor vehicles will be given a time period to get the new plate when they renew their licence next year," she said.

Timetables, tickets, call centres revamped

In addition to new licence plates, the GTMA has also taken over the provincial department's role of revamping the way Gauteng drivers' licence centres operate, giving applicants electronic accessibility when applying for a licence and "beefing up" call centres.

The GTMA will also be rolling out a single ticket system that will be similar to London's Oyster card system, where commuters will only require one ticket to use buses, trains and taxis.

Passengers will still be able to pay cash for public transport, but there will also be a card available that would allow commuters to input a pre-paid amount, which will be deducted for an entire trip using different modes of transport.

"Say you have R100 loaded on the card; the unified fare system will calculate how many kilometres you travelled, add in a discount and deduct the final amount off your card. And the more one travels, the better the discount," said Whitehead.

She said that the mechanics of the card were still being planned, as it would take into account different categories of commuters - like pensioners, students and frequent travellers.

The new system will be used for both existing and future public transport operators. "But this is going to take a while, it can't all be done overnight," said Whitehead.

She said that within the next 18 months, the province would already start to see a few changes. By May 2009, there will be a consolidated timetable, which will become an integrated public transport timetable by the end of the year. Shortly after that, there will be integrated fares and ticketing.

This will eventually lead to a point where there will be a system with norms and standards - from what vehicles look like (yellow buses for schools and white for hospitals) to a uniform appearance for stations and bus stops."

Wait and see, by 2010/2012 there will be another excuse to change the numberplates, again....So instead of fixing the existing chaos, we create more, and make more money out of it.
 
Well she doesn't go on to explain what exactly the micro-chips do? I go through a toll, it picks it up and registers the toll to my license plate - good, but how do I pay? I am not giving the government my banking details. I am a little confused by this move but that might have something to do with my massive hangover...

I also have a major issue with microchips that can track me - fsck that if it is the case!

Secondly, what public transport? :confused: We will have the gautrain - thats it in JHB. I like the Oyster card idea as it works really well.....in London where they have public transport. Somehow I don't see minibus taxis implementing a scanning system for payment...:rolleyes:
 
haha, this is so flawed... You telling me if i want to go thru a toll gate its billed to the license plate owner? Looks like number plates are gonna be the next crime target!!
 
Neither does my friends on their motorbikes.... :p
The BB22BB system can use (vowels excluded) 19'448'100 plates
The current BBB222 system has 9'261'000 possibilities.
If I am not mistaken, I've seen some brand new plates that starts with numbers again... :confused:
The new system will once again have a pretty long integration time...
 
Lucky me, i dont even put on number plates ...

Yip neither did i catch but now what they do if they catch you without plates is run a check on all fines matching your car, my buddie got caught like this and the fine was huge.

Fines from a year ago they nailed him with and the total amount was nearly 25k.

This scared me into putting them back on.
 
Lucky me, i dont even put on number plates ...

I hope they nail you in a road block and lock you up with Bubba for the weekend. I see you and your fellow numberless ilk on the road every day showing complete disregard for the law because you believe that you are immune from prosecution.
 
I hope they nail you in a road block and lock you up with Bubba for the weekend. I see you and your fellow numberless ilk on the road every day showing complete disregard for the law because you believe that you are immune from prosecution.

Along with all the taxis, buses & delivery vehicles. :sick:
 
Yip neither did i catch but now what they do if they catch you without plates is run a check on all fines matching your car, my buddie got caught like this and the fine was huge.

Fines from a year ago they nailed him with and the total amount was nearly 25k.

This scared me into putting them back on.
True, but i have a good contact ... until it gets very serious i will consider putting back on. thanks for the heads up ;)


I hope they nail you in a road block and lock you up with Bubba for the weekend. I see you and your fellow numberless ilk on the road every day showing complete disregard for the law because you believe that you are immune from prosecution.

They nail me occasionally, so i tell them to give me the fine. What i do after that is my business. Are you so damn stupid to think they can lock me up because i dont have plates ... me and my numberless ilk are more safe on the roads than your kind :cool:
 
Yip neither did i catch but now what they do if they catch you without plates is run a check on all fines matching your car, my buddie got caught like this and the fine was huge.

Fines from a year ago they nailed him with and the total amount was nearly 25k.

This scared me into putting them back on.

IANAL.

That sounds surprising, I mean if I do not have my plates today, that does not mean that I did not have my plates on last week. Has this been tested in court, because there is a burden of proof on the traffic department that they are not fulfilling.
 
They nail me occasionally, so i tell them to give me the fine. What i do after that is my business. Are you so damn stupid to think they can lock me up because i dont have plates ... me and my numberless ilk are more safe on the roads than your kind :cool:

After reading your post I did a search on your name to see if we've interacted before (I'm very forgetful due to Mad Cow's disease :D) and whaddaya know? Almost the first post that I found from you contained this tidbit:

Very unfortunate i guess.

I hope this teaches others that even petty crimes can get you into a very messy situation.

If I may offer some advice I would recommend that you start practicing what you're preaching. Driving around without number plates in order to break traffic laws with impunity is, in my opinion, more than a petty crime.
 
True, but i have a good contact ... until it gets very serious i will consider putting back on. thanks for the heads up ;)

They nail me occasionally, so i tell them to give me the fine. What i do after that is my business. Are you so damn stupid to think they can lock me up because i dont have plates ... me and my numberless ilk are more safe on the roads than your kind :cool:

Maybe you need to... DIE IN A FIRE!!!

Yes, I said that. Say you bump my car at a intersection and then speed away? No way to track you.
 
After reading your post I did a search on your name to see if we've interacted before (I'm very forgetful due to Mad Cow's disease :D) and whaddaya know? Almost the first post that I found from you contained this tidbit:



If I may offer some advice I would recommend that you start practicing what you're preaching. Driving around without number plates in order to break traffic laws with impunity is, in my opinion, more than a petty crime.

lol, my post was related to what ?

Before you get your panties wet, i dont put plates on not to drive and break the law, it for cosmetic reasons.
 
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