Press release: CIAG 2026 LGE Voting Guide

[quovadis]

Genuine crimes have a victim.

Can you name the victim, in this case?

S vs CAPD

No time for your nonsense.

 

[Brian_G]

Re: the DA's 50%, ANC's 18%, etc:

Raises hand...... would that be 50% of the 32%(the number of eligible voters who actually voted, last election)?

p.s. Brian_G, feel free to use your friend to help to clarify. Shouldn't be all that difficult.

Response;

Good point. Party percentages are calculated from valid votes cast, not from the entire eligible electorate. So if only 32% of eligible voters turned out, a party receiving 50% of the vote would represent roughly 16% of that electorate.

Of course, those who didn't vote can't automatically be counted as supporting or opposing anyone. It does put the headline percentages into a rather different perspective, though!

 

[ToxicBunny]

Note that the first map was a second attempt by AI, so may include some of what it discussed after the initial effort. I think I'll leave it there regarding detail.




I for one am not denying that, in fact it's been discussed quite a bit over the last few months.
All we're looking at here now is a concept of geographical patterns, nothing definitive.




Also discussed, and you were present in those discussions (but maybe didn't read them?)

To sumarise: point is, there's wide sentimental support, but not necessarily much willingness to convert that into practicality (yet?)

I did read them, but to summarise reality, there is fsckall actual support. Not a yet or a maybe or anything of the sort. The independence "movement" has had how many years to move the needle and have failed to do so?

Something like independence doesn't need sentimental support, it needs actual support and the various factions seem to be hellbent on avoiding any actual numbers depicting the appetite for their pipedream.

 

[Brian_G]

Just discussed that, TB, why are you circling?
This isn't about anything that could happen tomorrow. WC-ians would need a much stronger incentive for sure, however you look at it.

That said; trying to see if Lex's idea about focusing instead on specific WC location(s) has any angles of interest or merit, little more.

 

[quovadis]

This isn't about anything that could happen tomorrow.

These groups have been around for 3-20 years. Wtaf is the point then if it's all still based in sentimental bs?

 

[Brian_G]

These groups have been around for 3-20 years. Wtaf is the point then if it's all still based in sentimental bs?

The sentiment is real


Reason I'm still interested; there's no other hope for those of us stuck in this swamp, no matter how remote it is (so far) :-/

 

[quovadis]

The sentiment is real


Reason I'm still interested; there's no other hope for those of us stuck in this swamp, no matter how remote it is (so far) :-/

 

[Brian_G]

At least we're trying something....

You guys;

 

[ToxicBunny]

At least we're trying something....

You guys;

What are you trying specifically? What support needle has moved in the real world? What specific things are being done to build actual support for this?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Just discussed that, TB, why are you circling?
This isn't about anything that could happen tomorrow. WC-ians would need a much stronger incentive for sure, however you look at it.

That said; trying to see if Lex's idea about focusing instead on specific WC location(s) has any angles of interest or merit, little more.

It doesn't have any merit or interest, less than 1% of people give 2 fscks, and if lexy is the spokesperson the chances are that "support" will fall to a flatline 0%.

 

[Brian_G]

The real world shows signs of being ready to pounce if there's ever a bad enough emergency. Guess what - the ANC guarantees that's coming

If it takes 5, 7 or 20 years, the human being will only take so much and the WC will end up free.

/waits for the avalanche of fearful comebacks

 

[vigras rojara]

The real world shows signs of being ready to pounce if there's ever a bad enough emergency. Guess what - the ANC guarantees that's coming

If it takes 5, 7 or 20 years, the human being will only take so much and the WC will end up free.

/waits for the avalanche of fearful comebacks

Perhaps when the ANC takes over or when Mandela dies.

 

[lexity]

The independence "movement" has had how many years to move the needle and have failed to do so?

It takes 2 to tango peacefully.....

Cannot move the needle(or ability to move it is severely hampered) without cooperation from those whose responsibility it is to call a referendum when indicated.

 

[ToxicBunny]

The real world shows signs of being ready to pounce if there's ever a bad enough emergency. Guess what - the ANC guarantees that's coming

If it takes 5, 7 or 20 years, the human being will only take so much and the WC will end up free.

/waits for the avalanche of fearful comebacks

HIstory and reality do not really concur with your assumptions. Humans will tolerate a complete fscking shyte show before they generally unite and stand up against something.

And by shyteshow, I mean a complete and utter human rights etc clusterfsck of epic proportions.

 

[Brian_G]

Perhaps when the ANC takes over or when Mandela dies.

You're a strange one sometimes... lol

 

[Brian_G]

HIstory and reality do not really concur with your assumptions. Humans will tolerate a complete fscking shyte show before they generally unite and stand up against something.

And by shyteshow, I mean a complete and utter human rights etc clusterfsck of epic proportions.

Don't forget, it's likely to be far easier here to stand up - the armed forces etc. aren't exactly a match for such reactions.


Anyway, all speculation for now, and still always an interesting topic...

 

[ToxicBunny]

Don't forget, it's likely to be easier here to stand up - the armed forces etc. aren't exactly a match for such reactions.


Anyway, all speculation for now, and still always an interesting topic...

Huh?

You seriously think some random citizens are going to stand up to our armed forces if they go all "dictator" level brutal? You live in fscking complete lala land Brian.

Our armed forces may be broken, but they're still more than capable of completely and brutally suppressing our population.

 

[vigras rojara]

You're a strange one sometimes... lol

Well the point is that people have been talking about this calamitous event that you seem to be referring to, for decades.

The two reference points I mentioned were frequently cited by doom merchants in the past. So I think you're waiting for the rapture.

 

[Brian_G]

@lexity , if you're going to continue down the political referendum road, at least show how you think it could result in a different outcome to the RP election flop, and how it could be funded given that most in WC are unlikely to be able to get online.

 

[lexity]

Firstly, this concern was posted by the bot;



I'm posting it anyway (#2 map) , will be potentially interesting for a more speculation-based chat at least.


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Some ChatGPT commentary will follow...

Shouldn't you be asking for indications of support for a referendum on CI?

You asked for support for CI. That's preempting the referendum a bit.