Preventing uploading congesting packets

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How do I prevent this happening on my network?
[video=youtube;wvxJK_AAzeI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvxJK_AAzeI[/video]

QoS on my DSL2750U is seemingly impossible, and pfsense doesn't quite like my hardware. Anyone have other options?

Thanks :)
 
You need a proper firewall to get this right, you'll also lose a bit of overall bandwidth.

Getting pfsense working will be your best bet, it's hardware support is pretty good so you must have some really odd setup.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
You need a proper firewall to get this right, you'll also lose a bit of overall bandwidth.

Getting pfsense working will be your best bet, it's hardware support is pretty good so you must have some really odd setup.
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^1
 
Clarotech said:
You could probably do something cheaply with the QoS on an RB750. If you don't want to mess too much with your existing network setup you can even configure it as a transparent bridge.

There are quite a few examples online here is a good starting point:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Traffic_Priortization,_RouterOS_QoS_Implemetation
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And where can one get hold of this Mikrotik for around how much ? Would like to do traffic management and live/ historic traffic reporting ( does it have a good amount of storage) . Thanks
 
kianm said:
And where can one get hold of this Mikrotik for around how much ? Would like to do traffic management and live/ historic traffic reporting ( does it have a good amount of storage) . Thanks
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Scoop or Uniterm would probably be your best bet. ~R500 ex VAT

If you want reporting then you can get traffic graphs with SNMP otherwise it also supports netflow which you can export to a collector of your choice. ManageEnginge's netflow analyzer is pretty good and supports 2 interfaces for free.
 
Clarotech said:
Scoop or Uniterm would probably be your best bet. ~R500 ex VAT

If you want reporting then you can get traffic graphs with SNMP otherwise it also supports netflow which you can export to a collector of your choice. ManageEnginge's netflow analyzer is pretty good and supports 2 interfaces for free.
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Thanks and it doesn't require any extra licenses to unlock functionality right?
 
kianm said:
Thanks and it doesn't require any extra licenses to unlock functionality right?
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The RB? No. It will require some IT savvy on your part though ;)

The Netflow Analyzer is a commercial application that has a free version.
 
PfSense tutorial on how to setup traffic shaping:

[video=youtube_share;EfXImr5q-sw]http://youtu.be/EfXImr5q-sw[/video]
 
I am getting a USB to ethernet adapter tomorrow for the laptop I'm using as the pfSense box, so I can't wait to try this out :) (I need pfSense!!!! :cry:)
 
I've honestly found proper QoS traffic shaping, like in the video I posted above, to not be very well suited for DSL connections. Because the shaping rules require you to set fixed thresholds for your bandwidth you will find yourself having to sacrifice some throughput to get this to work efficiently.

I've actually found that a plain old limiter is quite effective used in the right way. I'm using a limiter on our office network to just limit each workstation to 2M-down/384K-up and it's proving to be very effective. You can also obviously tweak the limiter in the firewall rules to target services more specifically.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
I've honestly found proper QoS traffic shaping, like in the video I posted above, to not be very well suited for DSL connections. Because the shaping rules require you to set fixed thresholds for your bandwidth you will find yourself having to sacrifice some throughput to get this to work efficiently.

I've actually found that a plain old limiter is quite effective used in the right way. I'm using a limiter on our office network to just limit each workstation to 2M-down/384K-up and it's proving to be very effective. You can also obviously tweak the limiter in the firewall rules to target services more specifically.
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Yeah that shaper doesn't seem to be doing much at all for me. Games still lag when someone uses YouTube. I don't want to use a limiter, because I want multiple PCs in the house to be able to stream and browse while gaming -- not just one or the other... Unless it is possible for the limiter to be variable (like if one IP address has a game playing, then limit every other IP's upload speed to 384k)?
pfSense has so many options it's annoying and great at the same time.
 
giggity said:
Yeah that shaper doesn't seem to be doing much at all for me. Games still lag when someone uses YouTube. I don't want to use a limiter, because I want multiple PCs in the house to be able to stream and browse while gaming -- not just one or the other... Unless it is possible for the limiter to be variable (like if one IP address has a game playing, then limit every other IP's upload speed to 384k)?
pfSense has so many options it's annoying and great at the same time.
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If the shaper is not effective then it's not set up correctly. You can use a limiter on a schedule and for selected IPs, but it won't be able to detect if somebody is playing a game.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
If the shaper is not effective then it's not set up correctly. You can use a limiter on a schedule and for selected IPs, but it won't be able to detect if somebody is playing a game.
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I used the setup wizard. Is there more that I need to do? I thought that would be the most effective method.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Did you measure your download/upload bandwidth and then drop it slightly when entering it into the config?
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Sorry was away for the day. I have set it up like that now, and, as far as testing can show, it's worse. When opening a YouTube video, it disconnects my game. Not sure what's happening here... I mean, the shaper has gaming set to priority 5 while http is 3 I think.
 
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