Prisons set to be renamed

[Lycanthrope]

Correctional Services Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa Nqakula on Sunday said she wanted the names of 11 of the country’s prisons changed.

The minister insisted their current names were not inspiring to inmates and staff.

Members of the public have until February to make their suggestions.

The affected facilities include Pollsmoor and Goodwood Prisons in the Western Cape and in Gauteng Johannesburg, Pretoria Central and Leeuwkop will be renamed.

Ministerial spokesperson Sonwabo Mbananga said the time is ripe for a renaming exercise.

“We think its time that our correctional facilities sand indeed the department reflect the aspirations of this society today. And we believe that one of the starting phases is to name some of these facilities after these giants of freedom,” he said.

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.... Why?

More money wasted...

As for renaming prisons after "giants of freedom" I nominate that one should be named after Zuma--that should serve to inspire anyone convicted of crime that there's hope yet. Schabir Shaik Prison also springs to mind!

 

[SinghDude]

Only in S.A.

 

[HapticSimian]

Do these ****ers hold meetings to decide on the most pointless avenues for monetary wastage? Surely prisons must be near the top of the list of things where the name doesn't ****ing matter.

 

[satanboy]

I have to agree that this is STUPID, but stating that a prison to be named after Zuma is even more stupid.

 

[MickeyD]

At last something they can name after Apartheid heroes!!!!
DF Malan
JG Strijdom
HF Verwoerd
BJ Vorster
PW Botha

This should keep the very far right happy!!!!!!

 

[Lycanthrope]

I have to agree that this is STUPID, but stating that a prison to be named after Zuma is even more stupid.

Ah, glad to see you've spotted the irony: a stupid idea gets a stupid suggestion.

Regardless, nothing could be as stupid as someone taking my nomination seriously

Just a thought.

 

[SinghDude]

Does it really matter WTF a prison is called? Crime is certainly a bigger issue than re-naming correctional facilities.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Does it really matter WTF a prison is called? Crime is certainly a bigger issue than re-naming correctional facilities.

Evidently it does:

The minister insisted their current names were not inspiring to inmates and staff.

It's obviously not inspirational to the inmates. They have to actually be inspired to go to prison. Something about being proud of being incarcerated in a prison with a certain name or something, I'm sure.

 

[MickeyD]

imo the prison should have the same name as the area in which it is located, whether this is a suburb in a large city or the name of the town in the platteland.

 

[SinghDude]

+1

 

[Lycanthrope]

imo the prison should have the same name as the area in which it is located, whether this is a suburb in a large city or the name of the town in the platteland.

+2

What the hell is wrong with a neutral name like 'Goodwood Prison?'

Apparently it's not "transformed" enough or some such nonsense.

 

[HapticSimian]

Inspire the inmates? How's about inspiring the public not to become inmates in the first place? Rename Pollsmoor to Get Shivved in the ****ing Neck Correctional Facility.

 

[SinghDude]

Well govt is silly enough to name buildings after themselves!

The J Z prison ( 3 x showers a day ) does have a nice ring to it.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Well govt is silly enough to name buildings after themselves!

The J Z prison ( 3 x showers a day ) does have a nice ring to it.

lol...

I only mentioned Zuma because he's considered a "giant of freedom" by many and the fact that he got away without a conviction can be inspirational. Even naming a prison after Mandela could be inspirational: Go to prison for 27 years, leave and end up famous, wealthy and president. The best, by far, would be Schabir Shaik prison, methinks.

Bearing in mind, I'm not saying Mandela deserved to be in prison, I'm just pointing out the ambiguity in all these cases.

My stance remains that the names of correctional facilities should remain neutral.

This is just such a ridiculous waste of resources...

I swear someone just came up with the idea so that they can claim they're getting paid for actually doing something.

 

[nivek]

I have to agree that this is STUPID, but stating that a prison to be named after Zuma is even more stupid.

I think its a good idea, Zuma can serve his time for corruption, in the Zuma maximum security prison, after the next ANC power struggle

 

[SinghDude]

Well we paying for these resources,just sad and pathetic that govt priorities are not in place.

 

[satanboy]

Goodwood is a suburb situated between the northern and southern suburbs of Cape Town, South Africa. The town was established in 1905 and named after Goodwood Racecourse in England as the founders intended to make it a racing centre.

I would say a neutral name.

The Dukedom, named after the Clan Gordon, was first created for the 4th Marquess of Huntly, who on 3 November 1684 was created Duke of Gordon, Marquess of Huntly, Earl of Huntly and Enzie (all three of which he already held by an older creation), Viscount of Inverness, and Lord Strathaven, Balmore, Auchindoun, Garthie and Kincardine. On 2 July 1784, the 4th Duke was created Earl of Norwich, in the County of Norfolk, and Baron Gordon, of Huntley in the County of Gloucester, in the Peerage of Great Britain. The principal family seat was Gordon Castle. The Dukedom became extinct in 1836, along with all the titles created in 1684 and 1784.
Most of the Gordon estates passed to the son of the 5th Duke's eldest sister, the 5th Duke of Richmond, whose main seat was Goodwood House in Sussex.[1] In 1876 his son, the 6th Duke, was created Duke of Gordon, of Gordon Castle in Scotland, and Earl of Kinrara, in the County of Inverness. Thus, the Duke holds four dukedoms (including the titular Aubigny-sur-Nère; see Duke of Aubigny), more than any other person in the realm.

blah blah

 

[Lycanthrope]

South:

The word south is derived from the name of one of the four dwarves in Norse mythology, Norðri, Suðri, Austri and Vestri, who each represented one of the directions of the world. The etymology of South can be traced back to the Old English word suth, related to the Old High German word sund, and perhaps sunne in Old English with sense of "the region of the sun."

Africa:

Afri was the name of several Semitic peoples who dwelt in North Africa near Carthage ( in modern Tunisia). Their name is usually connected with Phoenician afar, "dust", but a 1981 hypothesis[6] has asserted that it stems from a Berber word ifri or Ifran meaning "cave", in reference to cave dwellers.[7] Africa or Ifri or Afer[7] is name of Banu Ifran from Algeria and Tripolitania (Berber Tribe of Yafran).[8]

Under Roman rule, Carthage became the capital of Africa Province, which also included the coastal part of modern Libya. The Roman suffix "-ca" denotes "country or land".[9] The later Muslim kingdom of Ifriqiya, modern-day Tunisia, also preserved a form of the name.

Other etymological hypotheses that have been postulated for the ancient name "Africa":

* the 1st century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (Ant. 1.15) asserted that it was named for Epher, grandson of Abraham according to Gen. 25:4, whose descendants, he claimed, had invaded Libya.
* Latin word aprica ("sunny") mentioned by Isidore of Seville in Etymologiae XIV.5.2.
* the Greek word aphrike (Αφρική), meaning "without cold." This was proposed by historian Leo Africanus (1488–1554), who suggested the Greek word phrike (φρίκη, meaning "cold and horror"), combined with the privative prefix "a-", thus indicating a land free of cold and horror.
* Massey, in 1881, derived an etymology from the Egyptian af-rui-ka, "to turn toward the opening of the Ka." The Ka is the energetic double of every person and "opening of the Ka" refers to a womb or birthplace. Africa would be, for the Egyptians, "the birthplace."[10]
* yet another hypothesis was proposed by Michèle Fruyt in Revue de Philologie 50, 1976: 221–238, linking the Latin word with africus 'south wind', which would be of Umbrian origin and mean originally 'rainy wind'.

The name of our country is too heavily influenced by the West and Europeans. I demand that it be transformed too!

 

[SinghDude]

Woza Azania woza !

Amandla!

 

[Lycanthrope]

Woza Azania woza !

Amandla!

Azania won't work either, I'm afraid:

The earliest attestations for the name Azania do not explain it. John Hilton alludes to a number of etymologies proposed in the nineteenth century that claimed the name was derived from an Arabic or Persian word referring to the dark-skinned inhabitants of Africa, which he dismisses as examples of the colonial mindset of that period.

More recently, G.W.B. Huntingford offered two suggestions for the origin of the word. The first was from the Arabic `ajam ("foreigner, non-Arab"). The second, which he favors, comes from the Greek azainein ("to dry, parch").

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