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Vendetta

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Good Day,

I am looking for 2 programmers/database designers who are interested in taking on a side line project. I have designed a concept for a new online system that will benefit businesses and consumers locally and internationally.

I, unfortunately, lack the skills and knowledge to develop this concept into reality and I am hoping there are programmers out there looking for a challenge.

Please understand and take note that this is intended to be a sideline project. This means that there is no profit in this project at this time. I will require the interested individuals to sign a non-disclosure contract. In return for this service I offer shares in the product when it reaches commercial stage. I am also offering positions in the company that will be built around this product.

My involvement will be marketing and developing this project into a commercial product and selling it. I have done my research into the demand for such a product and the demand is staggering. Many potential clients have already asked me if this exist or when can they start using it. This product does not exist and if we pull this off we will be the first.

So if you are interested please send me a pm. I want to get this ball rolling asap! Please I am only looking for candidates that are willing to take this project serious. Also please, I live in Bellville and for meeting purposes I am only looking for candidates in the Cape Town region.

I thank you all and hope to hear from the community soon.

Best Regards,

RH :cool:
 
yip, if it exists in another form it probably won't take off. Unless businesses have actually said they want it.
 
Vendetta said:
Lol! Well a man can give it a shot.
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Theres almost a thread about this on a weekly basis. Someone with the next greatest and latest idea, but who is not willing to spend money. So the developer does all the work and the plan fails as per usual. I dont think there is a developer on this forum that has not had this happen to them. Its very very common place. I would say your chances of getting someone good to do this for you is virtually 0. Your chances of getting someone down on his luck and unemployed is about 30%.
 
ghoti said:
Theres almost a thread about this on a weekly basis. Someone with the next greatest and latest idea, but who is not willing to spend money. So the developer does all the work and the plan fails as per usual. I dont think there is a developer on this forum that has not had this happen to them. Its very very common place. I would say your chances of getting someone good to do this for you is virtually 0. Your chances of getting someone down on his luck and unemployed is about 30%.
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Glad you said virtually, because if you said realistically I would have been concerned. I understand that there are many such ideas floating around promising big like many of those 'back of Stop Signs adverts' . I am myself unemployed and down on my luck at this stage so I will take my chances with that 30%.
 
ghoti said:
Theres almost a thread about this on a weekly basis. Someone with the next greatest and latest idea, but who is not willing to spend money. So the developer does all the work and the plan fails as per usual. I dont think there is a developer on this forum that has not had this happen to them. Its very very common place. I would say your chances of getting someone good to do this for you is virtually 0. Your chances of getting someone down on his luck and unemployed is about 30%.
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I agree at the end of the day OP if you do not have the know how you need to commit financially to the project and employ developers

As any developer would say to you

The developer can do the whole project by him/her self and sell it so what is your part in this ? And why would someone want to commit to this with bills to pay a month ? And he or she may never see a cent
 
I used to do stuff like this - come up with ideas for games or whatever, and then post them and be like "Wouldnt it be great if SOMEONE (ie not me) made this game exactly like how I want it so that I can play it?"

But yeah.... that doesnt work. There was a good article that I read up on the subject, but basically, if I'm putting that much work in, I want to either get paid, a lot, or it has to be my idea so that I own it totally. Look at what happened with facebook!

Right now, I'm actually working on my own game. Its a backbreaking amount of work, and when I get to the point that I need to get someone to make artwork for me, I'm going to pay them for their time rather than on promises.

Put simply - if you dont have the skills to do this yourself, you better have the money. If you dont have the money or the skills, then chances are extremely low you will get someone to help you out with this. And if they did, they would want 50% or more of the resulting company, and they would have to share in the belief that your idea is awesome. In fact they might want more than 50% since they are doing all the work. I know I would. I mean the developer does all the work and you do... nothing? Not how it works.
 
Ancalagon said:
I used to do stuff like this - come up with ideas for games or whatever, and then post them and be like "Wouldnt it be great if SOMEONE (ie not me) made this game exactly like how I want it so that I can play it?"

But yeah.... that doesnt work. There was a good article that I read up on the subject, but basically, if I'm putting that much work in, I want to either get paid, a lot, or it has to be my idea so that I own it totally. Look at what happened with facebook!

Right now, I'm actually working on my own game. Its a backbreaking amount of work, and when I get to the point that I need to get someone to make artwork for me, I'm going to pay them for their time rather than on promises.

Put simply - if you dont have the skills to do this yourself, you better have the money. If you dont have the money or the skills, then chances are extremely low you will get someone to help you out with this. And if they did, they would want 50% or more of the resulting company, and they would have to share in the belief that your idea is awesome. In fact they might want more than 50% since they are doing all the work. I know I would. I mean the developer does all the work and you do... nothing? Not how it works.
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+10000 Well said
 
Well you know if I do not get anyone from this site that are willing to assist that is alright I accept that. I thought I would share my idea with the community. I expected criticism and my response to it will always be the same. I accept it and I understand the concerns pointed out but in the end it will not deter me from trying in making my concept a reality.

Developers do all the work in developing a program that is true. However a developed program will mean nothing if it is not marketed correctly. I will not sit and watch other people do my work for me, I was simply looking for assistance. My skills are in marketing and selling a product so while the product is being developed I intend to do my best in marketing the product so when it is ready it can be sold.

But that is just my way of doing things.
 
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Vendetta said:
Well you know if I do not get anyone from this site that are willing to assist that is alright I accept that. I thought I would share my idea with the community. I expected criticism and my response to it will always be the same. I accept it and I understand the concerns pointed out but in the end it will not deter me from trying in making my concept a reality.

Developers do all the work in developing a program that is true. However a developed program will mean nothing if it is not marketed correctly. I will not sit and watch other people do my work for me, I was simply looking for assistance. My skills are in marketing and selling a product so while the product is being developed I intend to do my best in marketing the product so when it is ready it can be sold.

But that is just my way of doing things.
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I think you're taking this the wrong way. Its not that we arent willing to assist, its that nobody will assist you when they are doing all the work and getting nothing in return. The developer takes all the risk because if your idea goes belly up, he has wasted all his time and has nothing to show for it.

There are a lot more developers who could successfully market their program than their are marketers who can develop programs. And the amount of work needed for development far outweighs any amount of time you would spend marketing initially.

Once again, we arent criticizing you for wanting to start a business - we are criticizing you for wanting someone else to do your work for you while you take no risk and dont pay them. How on earth would you think thats a good idea?

The only way I can see this working is if you partner with a developer, and take out a loan to finance the development.
 
you might find it to be extremely difficult to get any interest in your project without paying a programmer. at least if your live far in belleville, you must pay for petrol, and food, and an internet connection for me to work from home :)
 
I would help if I could develop!

Good ideas are hard to come by these days.

I'm sure the rewards would well exceed the time used to try and make it a reality.

If you don't try you'll never know.
 
3p1c said:
I would help if I could develop!

Good ideas are hard to come by these days.

I'm sure the rewards would well exceed the time used to try and make it a reality.

If you don't try you'll never know.
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The sad truth is that ideas are far more plentiful than the time and effort needed to make them a reality.
 
I understand that the concern is that the developer takes the risk and has to do all the work while I do nothing. But that is not so and I would never promote that. I am looking at doing my equal share of work in this project. I have spend many months designing the concept, designing the business plan and speaking to investors. How the product needs to work and what it has to deliver in a realistic manner. So that the developer has a project plan to work with.

All the prep work I have done on my own and all it needs now is just for it to become a working product.
 
Vendetta said:
I understand that the concern is that the developer takes the risk and has to do all the work while I do nothing. But that is not so and I would never promote that. I am looking at doing my equal share of work in this project. I have spend many months designing the concept, designing the business plan and speaking to investors. How the product needs to work and what it has to deliver in a realistic manner. So that the developer has a project plan to work with.

All the prep work I have done on my own and all it needs now is just for it to become a working product.
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You still dont get it - you have maybe done 10% to 20% of what needs to be done on this project. Really your design is not complete without a developer looking over it, since it might not be technically feasible, or it might already exist. So your developer needs to look at it, and then find a way to translate that into an actual program. Oh and he needs to decide on what tools and technology to use, and those arent always free either. Then he needs to actually code it, which depending on the complexity, could take a few months of 40 hour weeks. And he must do all this work for you, and possibly not get a cent when the business goes bankrupt 2 months after launch?

You still dont get it.

And if you have spoken with investors, then get them to invest and use that money to pay your developers.
 
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