PS4 Pro

Just saw your other thread selling a lightning damaged PS4.

I don't really think it's worth it for anyone that has the original but for new buyers it might be, besides the 4K, which is just upscaled anyway, the major benefit is games on the PS4 Pro actually seem to run at 60FPS now, which the original couldn't do.

Take Rise of the Tomb Raider as an example. with the PS4 Pro update it gives you the option of choosing 4K, Enriched Visuals which improves the graphics and keeps it at 30FPS or Higher Frame rate which keeps the graphics the same as the normal PS4 but at 60FPS.
 
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Decided to bite the bullet. Ordered on Takealot will arrive tomorrow. Will update when I can.

We are getting a 65" 4K soon so that will really show whether its worth it or not
 
jamacouve said:
Decided to bite the bullet. Ordered on Takealot will arrive tomorrow. Will update when I can.

We are getting a 65" 4K soon so that will really show whether its worth it or not
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If you are getting a 4K TV, I think a PS4 pro is a must.
Most TVs disable up-scaling to 4K when gaming mode is active. Without decent upscaling I've read that it looks worse on a 4K TV than it does on a 1080p TV, which is as expected.
 
Kerrits said:
If you are getting a 4K TV, I think a PS4 pro is a must.
Most TVs disable up-scaling to 4K when gaming mode is active. Without decent upscaling I've read that it looks worse on a 4K TV than it does on a 1080p TV, which is as expected.
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Do you know why ?
 
jamacouve said:
Do you know why ?
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Processing time. Gaming mode applies a lot less processing to the input to minimize the delay between when it receives the frame, and when it displays the frame to reduce input lag.
 
Just don't enable gaming mode, no normal human can notice the difference, maybe world champion pro Call of Duty players.

Also Google the TV model + PS4 Pro, see what other people say.
 
Soul Assassin said:
Just don't enable gaming mode, no normal human can notice the difference, maybe world champion pro Call of Duty players.

Also Google the TV model + PS4 Pro, see what other people say.
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I definitely noticed it on my 2010 1080p LCD. As in, I plugged in, fired up God of War 3 (which worked fine on my previous TV) and wondered wtf was wrong. Why does the input feel so delayed.
It was unplayable out of the box, and before some of the later software updates even gaming mode wasn't really good enough. Luckily there was a "hack" where you could reduce processing further.
Now it's a lot better and I don't notice it with the games I play.

This guy with his Hisense would also disagree with you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFL2KW_bKzs
 
Kerrits said:
I definitely noticed it on my 2010 1080p LCD. As in, I plugged in, fired up God of War 3 (which worked fine on my previous TV) and wondered wtf was wrong. Why does the input feel so delayed.
It was unplayable out of the box, and before some of the later software updates even gaming mode wasn't really good enough. Luckily there was a "hack" where you could reduce processing further.
Now it's a lot better and I don't notice it with the games I play.

This guy with his Hisense would also disagree with you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFL2KW_bKzs
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That's actually hilarious but I wouldn't really compare a brand new TV OP is going to buy to a 6 year old TV and 2 year old Hisense.

If OP is getting a Samsung he should just change the input name to PC, that has even less input lag than the game mode.
 
jamacouve said:
Decided to bite the bullet. Ordered on Takealot will arrive tomorrow. Will update when I can.

We are getting a 65" 4K soon so that will really show whether its worth it or not
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Do you know which TV you're getting?
 
Yeah, you're definitely going to want to turn on gaming mode for this one, but when you do it's damn quick.

1080p @ 60Hz Show Help : 21.1 ms
1080p With Interpolation Show Help : 130.2 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode Show Help : 119.8 ms
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Soul Assassin said:
Just don't enable gaming mode, no normal human can notice the difference, maybe world champion pro Call of Duty players.

Also Google the TV model + PS4 Pro, see what other people say.
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Of course you can notice the difference.

The whole point of Game Mode is to disable post-processing which causes image delays and processing.

I can show you on most TV's now the crosshairs blur for instance without Game Mode on.

You can however do a "manual" Game Mode of sorts by switching most of it off yourself and the difference between that and Game Mode I agree you won't see.

It's not all about input lag but also internal display lag.
 
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Soul Assassin said:
I don't really think it's worth it for anyone that has the original but for new buyers it might be, besides the 4K, which is just upscaled anyway, the major benefit is games on the PS4 Pro actually seem to run at 60FPS now, which the original couldn't do.
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Firstly there are a few native 4K (please let's call it UHD instead) titles.

Secondly it's very very far removed from "just upscaling", firstly because it's not and secondly because the PS4 knows exactly what it's rendering while upscaling would be taking guesses.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Of course you can notice the difference.

The whole point of Game Mode is to disable post-processing which causes image delays and processing.

I can show you on most TV's now the crosshairs blur for instance without Game Mode on.

You can however do a "manual" Game Mode of sorts by switching most of it off yourself and the difference between that and Game Mode I agree you won't see.

It's not all about input lag but also internal display lag.
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We have figured out now OP is getting a Samsung TV so he can rename the input to PC for the least lag but he shouldn't have any issues just turning on Game Mode.

SauRoNZA said:
Firstly there are a few native 4K (please let's call it UHD instead) titles.

Secondly it's very very far removed from "just upscaling", firstly because it's not and secondly because the PS4 knows exactly what it's rendering while upscaling would be taking guesses.
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Very few, 29 iirc.

checkerboard rendering yes I know.
 
Soul Assassin said:
We have figured out now OP is getting a Samsung TV so he can rename the input to PC for the least lag but he shouldn't have any issues just turning on Game Mode.



Very few, 29 iirc.

checkerboard rendering yes I know.
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I seem to recall PC mode messes up the base colour profile and sets it for PC Use.

Would avoid that and use Game Mode instead.
 
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SauRoNZA said:
I seem to recall PC mode messes up with base colour profile and sets it for PC Use.

Would avoid that and use Game Mode instead.
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He should just be sure to turn on HDMI UHD Colour in the TV's menu and on the PS4 make sure 2160p is available.

The Game Mode issues are few and far between he definitely shouldn't be worried.
 
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