Psychotic Potheads

[copacetic]

Thanks for clearing that up, I knew there was a proper scientific explanation.

I get the impression you are being sarcastic. This explanation is entirely correct and easily historically verifiable if you take a minute to check.

 

[MiY4Gi]

But why is dagga banned in SA? Are we just following in the footsteps of the rest of the world?

 

[Techne]

It must be some fascist authoritarian conspiracy to try and reduce the risk of people turning into psychos. Or maybe the super intelligent know its good for you and that it actually makes you smarter, therefore they want to prevent people from becoming more alert and intelligent. I donno man, given all the benefits of the plant, something is fishy don't you think?

 

[porchrat]

It must be some fascist authoritarian conspiracy to try and reduce the risk of people turning into psychos.

You've mentioned reducing risk. This means you're claiming pot smoking increases your risk of psychosis. Sounds an awful lot like you have a causal link.. care to provide the study?

 

[AstroTurf]

Cannabis is not the risk, it is the solution to people that already have psycosis issues.

Besides, reefermadness was a classic.

 

[w1z4rd]

Reefer Madness!

[video=google;-6696582420128930236]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6696582420128930236#[/video]

 

[w1z4rd]

Thanks for clearing that up, I knew there was a proper scientific explanation.

[video=youtube;sknoKWsVlAA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sknoKWsVlAA[/video]

Here is a more detailed explanation on the prohibition of marijuana. It has moving pictures so should appeal to a broader audience

 

[Techne]

You've mentioned reducing risk. This means you're claiming pot smoking increases your risk of psychosis. Sounds an awful lot like you have a causal link.. care to provide the study?

Of course, I was 100% serious...:wtf: But you know, these fascist authoritarian nuts really can't because smoking weed is JUST associated with psychosis-related outcomes in young adults and studies show that continued cannabis use might increase the risk for psychotic disorder by impacting on the persistence of symptoms. They really can't use these iffy words to somehow draw the conclusion that smoking weed is bad for you. I guess they can't use these iffy words to show it is good for you either. So much for trying to use this science for some kind of legislation right?

 

[porchrat]

Of course, I was 100% serious...:wtf: But you know, these fascist authoritarian nuts really can't because smoking weed is JUST associated with psychosis-related outcomes in young adults and studies show that continued cannabis use might increase the risk for psychotic disorder by impacting on the persistence of symptoms. They really can't use these iffy words to somehow draw the conclusion that smoking weed is bad for you. I guess they can't use these iffy words to show it is good for you either. So much for trying to use this science for some kind of legislation right?

Of course you can use science for legislation. Just make sure you have more than a correlation. Also make sure you have more than "psychosis" considering that a whole lot of the conditions falling beneath the banner of psychosis are not related.

I know you weren't being serious but the implications even of your fun statement were that deep down you seem to hold to the idea that there is a risk. If you don't hold that view then I apologise.

 

[noxibox]

Are we just following in the footsteps of the rest of the world?

Yes, pretty much, however there has long been a policy of relative lenience in sentencing and often, due to prosecuting being a waste of everyone's time, the police will not even arrest someone found in possession. That can range from confiscation to merely telling the individual to be more circumspect about where they smoke it.

In general South Africa, like most other countries, merely adds drugs to the prohibited list because others, most notably the US, have, without doing any research to determine whether there are any risks that truly justify a ban. In some cases, like GHB, they essentially tried to back up the ban with hysterical nonsense they read in newspapers. Historically the US will do what they can to harm your country if you don't toe their line on drugs.

 

[MiY4Gi]

Alright, I think I'm gonna start smoking weed more often, and see if it affects my academic performance in any way.

 

[copacetic]

Alright, I think I'm gonna start smoking weed more often, and see if it affects my academic performance in any way.

Erm, I presume you are joking, but this is just a daft reason to smoke more weed.

 

[MiY4Gi]

Erm, I presume you are joking, but this is just a daft reason to smoke more weed.

No no no, I'm gonna smoke since it makes one feel good, but I've decided now that I'm not gonna hold back from smoking, because in the past I believed that it would affect my brain. What you guys have said here is that there's no proof that it either affects, or doesn't affect the brain.

 

[seventhson]

It must be some fascist authoritarian conspiracy to try and reduce the risk of people turning into psychos. Or maybe the super intelligent know its good for you and that it actually makes you smarter, therefore they want to prevent people from becoming more alert and intelligent. I donno man, given all the benefits of the plant, something is fishy don't you think?

Troll

 

[copacetic]

No no no, I'm gonna smoke since it makes one feel good, but I've decided now that I'm not gonna hold back from smoking, because in the past I believed that it would affect my brain. What you guys have said here is that there's no proof that it either affects, or doesn't affect the brain.

That is not at all what has been said. The question was 'doesn't it kill braincells?' The answer to this seems to be 'no'. The other issue was examining the conclusions drawn by the study in question.

That you would draw from this reasons to go wild with smoking a psychoactive drug (as in, of course it affects the brain) is to me, no offence, not the brightest idea.

 

[Nothxkbi]

As much as I would like to, I'm put off of weed for life. I took one drag of the stuff some time back and ended up with a weird out of body experience, I lost touch with reality and ended up standing in front of myself having an argument about whether my car needed new tyres or not. It was literally as if I was standing in front of a mirror I was talking to myself, it is the most f**d up thing I've ever experienced.

I was able to drive home no problem, but the next day my dad said they mixed crack cocaine into into the joint and two weeks after the party I heard there was indeed cocaine involved. It's was a bad trip, my first time smoking a joint and it's filled with snow.

I wasn't quite myself the next day, kept having panick attacks and drank about 5 gallons of water to shake it off. Was 100% for work the next day but yeah, I'm not going to chance that again.

Will stick to smokes and a couple of beers!

 

[satanboy]

yeah, cocaine bad...but nice

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

That's like saying - "I had a beer once for the first time and some nutjob spiked it with acid, I won't be having a beer ever again because beer is dangerous" ..... makes no sense

 

[porchrat]

As much as I would like to, I'm put off of weed for life. I took one drag of the stuff some time back and ended up with a weird out of body experience, I lost touch with reality and ended up standing in front of myself having an argument about whether my car needed new tyres or not. It was literally as if I was standing in front of a mirror I was talking to myself, it is the most f**d up thing I've ever experienced.

I was able to drive home no problem, but the next day my dad said they mixed crack cocaine into into the joint and two weeks after the party I heard there was indeed cocaine involved. It's was a bad trip, my first time smoking a joint and it's filled with snow.

I wasn't quite myself the next day, kept having panick attacks and drank about 5 gallons of water to shake it off. Was 100% for work the next day but yeah, I'm not going to chance that again.

Will stick to smokes and a couple of beers!

Yet another check on the "legalise it" column: you can control what goes into it to prevent this sort of thing.

 

[copacetic]

As much as I would like to, I'm put off of weed for life. I took one drag of the stuff some time back and ended up with a weird out of body experience, I lost touch with reality and ended up standing in front of myself having an argument about whether my car needed new tyres or not. It was literally as if I was standing in front of a mirror I was talking to myself, it is the most f**d up thing I've ever experienced.

I was able to drive home no problem, but the next day my dad said they mixed crack cocaine into into the joint and two weeks after the party I heard there was indeed cocaine involved. It's was a bad trip, my first time smoking a joint and it's filled with snow.

I wasn't quite myself the next day, kept having panick attacks and drank about 5 gallons of water to shake it off. Was 100% for work the next day but yeah, I'm not going to chance that again.

Will stick to smokes and a couple of beers!

While I am in no way advocating that you smoke weed, your reasoning here, as already pointed out, makes no sense whatsoever. When I was younger I had a similar experience I think, got offered a joint that had what I'm guessing was mandrax in it. What followed was one of the most unpleasant 12 hours of my life.

Yet another check on the "legalise it" column: you can control what goes into it to prevent this sort of thing.

I just have to point out that this reasoning doesn't quite gel to me, as this sounds like a case of the people at the party mixing weed and crack, not a drug dealer mixing the two.

All the legalization in the world is not going to stop the consumer from mixing any drugs that the wish to mix.