R25,000 hiring bonus - Java/JEE developer in Bryanston

MagicDude4Eva

MagicDude4Eva

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We are offering a R25,000.00 cash bounty for anyone being hired and staying with bidorbuy.co.za beyond the 3 month probationary period. A detailed spec is posted on LinkedIn.

The bounty is straight forward: You can get the 25K yourself if you apply or you can split it with a buddy if you refer them. The candidate needs to meet the skills and obviously should make it through the 3 months probationary (we will pay after the end of the probationary period).

BTW: Job agencies really suck at finding candidates. I can't stomach getting one more .Net CV for a Java/JEE position - how difficult can it be?
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
If this post is inappropriate, mod's please delete.

We are offering a R25,000.00 cash bounty for anyone being hired and staying with bidorbuy.co.za beyond the 3 month probationary period. A detailed spec is posted on LinkedIn.

The bounty is straight forward: You can get the 25K yourself if you apply or you can split it with a buddy if you refer them. The candidate needs to meet the skills and obviously should make it through the 3 months probationary (we will pay after the end of the probationary period).

BTW: Job agencies really suck at finding candidates. I can't stomach getting one more .Net CV for a Java/JEE position - how difficult can it be?
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Maybe you guys should switch to .NET? Just saying...
 
deweyzeph said:
Maybe you guys should switch to .NET? Just saying...
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Don't know - I have never personally seen a well performing/high-throughput transactional .Net environment. Quite happy with our 3000rpm, 70ms response time and 0.03% error rate on CentOS/Tomcat/Java.
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
If this post is inappropriate, mod's please delete.

We are offering a R25,000.00 cash bounty for anyone being hired and staying with bidorbuy.co.za beyond the 3 month probationary period. A detailed spec is posted on LinkedIn.

The bounty is straight forward: You can get the 25K yourself if you apply or you can split it with a buddy if you refer them. The candidate needs to meet the skills and obviously should make it through the 3 months probationary (we will pay after the end of the probationary period).

BTW: Job agencies really suck at finding candidates. I can't stomach getting one more .Net CV for a Java/JEE position - how difficult can it be?
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Do you have an issue with guys not sticking around after 3 month probationary?
 
eehellfire said:
Do you have an issue with guys not sticking around after 3 month probationary?
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I think the problem is agencies are only after the cash and will get any tosser in. I even had one agent who has high profile clients ask me if I was prepared to do job jumping for a year - I would only need to stay at the job for a minimal "contractual" period as PHP developers where so in demand that we could work out an arrangement.

After that I stopped working through agents.
 
eehellfire said:
Do you have an issue with guys not sticking around after 3 month probationary?
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I would have. We have a "start-up" culture - so very relaxed. Guys coming from a rigid corporate environment struggle (i.e. we have maybe 1 meeting a week, everything casual, open-plan/open-door) since they are used to have a tall hierarchy - I initially struggled with "me free" time since I was used to 15 hours of meetins a week.

So in almost all cases people will stick around for years in our environment. New hires will either not make it past the probationary period because they "stress" out about the relaxed environments or they are unable to apply their skills. An interview is always very subjective and regardless of how many tests you push a candidate through you will only see how someone works if he/she is on the ground.

Not quite sure what your thought was with not sticking around after 3 months?

Bar0n said:
This. Are your employees unhappy?
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No. Contrary - most guys live in the surrounding areas of Bryanston and are not bothered by eToll (they never use highways) or major traffic issues. Salary is market related. Coming from a corporate environment myself (financial, telco) I wouldn't trade this job for another (with the exception if our offices where in CTN or some Caribbean island). Very central to shopping centres and gyms and restaurant/coffee shop next door - so quite decent.
 
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I've never heard of someone not sticking around because an environment is too relaxed. Usually people leave because they can't stand another day of working for a company. Plain and simple.
 
deweyzeph said:
I've never heard of someone not sticking around because an environment is too relaxed. Usually people leave because they can't stand another day of working for a company. Plain and simple.
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You will be surprised. If you work agile and have no need for formal documentation or project plans (remember we are in eCommerce and need to be quite responsive and can't afford long lead-times) that freaked out some candidates. We deploy every day a number of times (still doing SDLC with defect management, version control, build and pre-prod testing) and devs are responsible for their own changes/testing/deployment - that was the biggest issues for guys in not sticking through probationary period. The missed the separation of responsibility (i.e. red-tape).

I guess if you are one of those "throw-it-over-the-fence" developers (i.e. you get a spec, develop according to it, let someone else test it, let someone else deploy it and let someone else fix bugs after deployment) than this job is not for you. Our engineers take a requirement and run with it from start to end. Big projects are perhaps 6 weeks and small ones a few days.

If you want to be close enough to your customers and business and where one of your changes could dramatically (good or bad) affect 1,3m users (and the thought of dropping a website of this size through a deployment scares but also excites you) then this is one job you should persue ;-)
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
You will be surprised. If you work agile and have no need for formal documentation or project plans (remember we are in eCommerce and need to be quite responsive and can't afford long lead-times) that freaked out some candidates. We deploy every day a number of times (still doing SDLC with defect management, version control, build and pre-prod testing) and devs are responsible for their own changes/testing/deployment - that was the biggest issues for guys in not sticking through probationary period. The missed the separation of responsibility (i.e. red-tape).
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I see it in my industry as well. It might look like where doing nothing 90% of the time which is correct, but for the other 10% the turnaround time was yesterday.

I'm also surprised how many developers don't like the environment of unkowns - they want to be spoon-fed their work for the next 2 years on a big wall calendar with a Noddy Badge everytime they hit a milestone.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
I see it in my industry as well. It might look like where doing nothing 90% of the time which is correct, but for the other 10% the turnaround time was yesterday.

I'm also surprised how many developers don't like the environment of unkowns - they want to be spoon-fed their work for the next 2 years on a big wall calendar with a Noddy Badge everytime they hit a milestone.
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You could not have said it any better. Hardly any really engineers and problem solvers out there. Everything needs to be spelled out by a business analyst and then translated into a technical spec by an "architect". Some of those developers have really become glorified typists ;-)

Most frustrating nowadays is that CVs come through from agencies where skills and job experience looks good only to find out that it was not actually the candidate who did the work, but some colleague. The most extreme case I so far had was a CV from a guy who claimed to have implemented a project which I actually did (I completely hate those "Anonymous CVs" where agencies decide not to disclose any particulars about the candidate other than skills and CTC).

BTW: Our LinkedIn job position and bounty have so far resulted into more tangible CVs then I have received in the last 8 weeks from agencies (with the notable exception of some of those agencies now asking if they get the bounty plus the placement fee - seriously?)
 
Can't stand that spoonfed working environment...

Challenges and ridiculous deadlines are the way you feel alive at work...
 
ToxicBunny said:
Can't stand that spoonfed working environment...

Challenges and ridiculous deadlines are the way you feel alive at work...
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But you are special and had it awkward when we worked together at that other big corporate - lol. Just too much red tape.

If you hadn't written that boring, successful game of yours and would accept a fulltime job, I would hire you - I know you know Java and are smart ;-)
 
Our environment is pretty much like OP describes. We get the high level then have to do the func spec, code, test and fix comebacks. It's better as you own the work and are responsible for the quality you release to the client.
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
But you are special and had it awkward when we worked together at that other big corporate - lol. Just too much red tape.

If you hadn't written that boring, successful game of yours and would accept a fulltime job, I would hire you - I know you know Java and are smart ;-)
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Lols... me no know Java...

Me, I'm one of them System Engineer folks who shoots from the hip and fixes shyte... :D
 
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