R45000 later, car still not fixed right

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Howdy fellow Broadbanders, I'm faced with a dilemma. Took my car to a repair shop because something must have rocked while driving, very low speed because I was going over a speed bump, after that I heard a weird noise and the car came to a complete stop.The first quote was R30126 to replace the following: Headgasket set
Intake Valves
Timing belt kit
Headbolts
Oil & Filter
Water pump
Injector seals
Engineering
Cosumables, a week later they added another R3300 exhaust valves, and another week another R10000 for injectors.
Then they called me that the repair is now complete, Collected the car on a Friday, next day I notice that it doesn't pull like before, no power. I could fully press the pedal to accelerate with no power, worse on a steep incline, took the car back on Monday, now they are saying the turbo and oil pump needs to be replaced, the bill is now nearing R60000 PLUS. I don't know what to do at this stage, a part of me thinks the repair shop is just sucking money out of me.
The car in question is a Ford Focus 1.5 Ecoboost 2017. Your input/advice/comments will be highly appreciated.
Also the front bumper came back with missing bolts, headlamp washer nozzle caps missing and a rear door scratched.
 
Had you put 'Ford Ecoboost' in the title, we could all have just skipped reading the rest.
Sorry you're only finding out about the delights of the Ecoboost engine now.
That thing was designed by people who hate their customers, and hate their dealership mechanics even more.
 
Without stating the obvious people are going to spam.
Its completely unlikely that a speed bump would break an engine/turbo like that unless it hits the sump and you get a bottom end failure. IF there was impact due to a speedbump, it could be considered a repair under insurance (equivalent to driving into a tree and they must replace your engine).

It seems like they shooting in the dark. alot of those elements are independent from each other. replacing the injectors could have nothing to do with the water pump.. Why they replacing the waterpump? did you have a coolant leak ?

So many questions. the laundry list of repairs are all over the place. did they even give you one concrete diagnosis?
 
Jan van Riebeeckstad said:
@epah see what a turbo does
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This is Ford engine, Ford has never made reliable cars, from petrol engines, turbo petrol or turbo diesel. All junk that blows its engines within the first 30 000km, I am surprised Op's engine survived that long, but ford engines have always been ticking time bombs.
 
nazmo said:
Without stating the obvious people are going to spam.
Its completely unlikely that a speed bump would break an engine/turbo like that unless it hits the sump and you get a bottom end failure. IF there was impact due to a speedbump, it could be considered a repair under insurance (equivalent to driving into a tree and they must replace your engine).

It seems like they shooting in the dark. alot of those elements are independent from each other. replacing the injectors could have nothing to do with the water pump.. Why they replacing the waterpump? did you have a coolant leak ?

So many questions. the laundry list of repairs are all over the place. did they even give you one concrete diagnosis?
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Most places replace the water pump when replacing the timing belt. It's 'preventative maintenance' and will save you a lot on labour when the water pump does need replacing, which will happen eventually.
 
nazmo said:
Without stating the obvious people are going to spam.
Its completely unlikely that a speed bump would break an engine/turbo like that unless it hits the sump and you get a bottom end failure. IF there was impact due to a speedbump, it could be considered a repair under insurance (equivalent to driving into a tree and they must replace your engine).

It seems like they shooting in the dark. alot of those elements are independent from each other. replacing the injectors could have nothing to do with the water pump.. Why they replacing the waterpump? did you have a coolant leak ?

So many questions. the laundry list of repairs are all over the place. did they even give you one concrete diagnosis?
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They have a rubber timing belt, INSIDE the engine, running in oil. That breaks down, the bits end up blocking the oil pickup which kills the engine. The water pumps leak directly into the oil sump. The list goes on. It's probably the worst engine ever designed. It is utter garbage.
 
As I sit here writing this now, a client of my wife's is here. I asked her why she's not in her ford ecoboost-powered ecosport, but rather using her husbands car. She said the Ford 'blew up' last week and is getting a new engine as we spoke. She said she's selling it as soon as she gets it fixed. I rest my case.
 
Grouter said:
They have a rubber timing belt, INSIDE the engine, running in oil. That breaks down, the bits end up blocking the oil pickup which kills the engine. The water pumps leak directly into the oil sump. The list goes on. It's probably the worst engine ever designed. It is utter garbage.
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That's what comes from fake-it-till-you-make-it Gen Z graduates who got into the engineering scene and their politics led to this thing seeing production. That engine is an EPIC FAIL.

This is not a "spam comment" since I have some idea of what is inside that block. It's not only the EPIC FAIL belt design, the tensioner has a design defect as well.
 
Grouter said:
They have a rubber timing belt, INSIDE the engine, running in oil. That breaks down, the bits end up blocking the oil pickup which kills the engine. The water pumps leak directly into the oil sump. The list goes on. It's probably the worst engine ever designed. It is utter garbage.
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What technically also happens is the sprockets jump teeth, leading to timing discrepancy and the piston meets valves with a loud bang. The teeth literally shear off the belt because it's busy decomposing
 
epah said:
This is Ford engine, Ford has never made reliable cars, from petrol engines, turbo petrol or turbo diesel. All junk that blows its engines within the first 30 000km, I am surprised Op's engine survived that long, but ford engines have always been ticking time bombs.
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I disagree
the old Cortina's, Escorts, Granada's etc were of the best.
The newer ones, since and including the Sierra yes I agree.
 
Hemi300c said:
I disagree
the old Cortina's, Escorts, Granada's etc were of the best.
The newer ones, since and including the Sierra yes I agree.
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Different engines of course. The Kent and Cosworth ones were some of the finest.
The V6 engine also had a flaw, plastic gears. But that was at least replaceable with a retrofit kit that allowed the plastics to be eliminated in favour of metal
 
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