dualmeister
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Another R631m.
What's the running total now?
Literally another R631m down the hole
What's the running total now?
Literally another R631m down the hole
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R631m tender toilets collapse
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Really? You are right! Surely if the "concrete slab" is the same size as the pit opening he could not have foreseen this? Sure the modern day BEE engineers and civil "experts" could not foresee it but any farmer in the free state knew better as their pit toilets hardly ever collapsed.
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thestaggy
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No. The tenderpreneur now knows he needs to lay proper foundations, so we can probably add on another R200 million.
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My comment was dripping with sarcasmMakes you sick doesn't it.
I realised therefore the edit in my post.
MickeyD
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Wait until you see the payments made to date... will search for that article.
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We buy lunch with the money! And with the change? We put some shoe boxes in the ground to appease the peasants.
Come on now, guys. Remember to make a huge *ahem* stink over this. Burn, break, throw some poo and have a media circus. Otherwise you're all just a bunch of hypocrites and probably deserve to wallow in your own uncovered shyte.
Sympathy meter is giving a strong zero reading on this one.
Come on now, guys. Remember to make a huge *ahem* stink over this. Burn, break, throw some poo and have a media circus. Otherwise you're all just a bunch of hypocrites and probably deserve to wallow in your own uncovered shyte.
Sympathy meter is giving a strong zero reading on this one.
dualmeister
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Siyenza Group
Perfect example of one of those companies you see and think "what the hell do they actually do".
Siyenza is a black-owned and -managed company focusing on empowering executives/ organisations to make things happen. We assist clients reach their full potential through a skilful combination of three core processes
Strategy
People
Execution
Most organisations fall short of their strategic goals because they are simply unable to deliver. This proves that the challenge is not about vision and strategy but rather about execution and capacity
Our strategic partners and our people are sourced from diverse backgrounds to deliver holistic and integrated solutions to merge strategy with reality, align people with goals and achieve the desired results.
How ironic ...
Perfect example of one of those companies you see and think "what the hell do they actually do".
Siyenza is a black-owned and -managed company focusing on empowering executives/ organisations to make things happen. We assist clients reach their full potential through a skilful combination of three core processes
Strategy
People
Execution
Most organisations fall short of their strategic goals because they are simply unable to deliver. This proves that the challenge is not about vision and strategy but rather about execution and capacity
Our strategic partners and our people are sourced from diverse backgrounds to deliver holistic and integrated solutions to merge strategy with reality, align people with goals and achieve the desired results.
How ironic ...
MickeyD
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http://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/anc-faces-behind-toilet-tender-scandal/
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ANC faces behind toilet tender scandal
A company with links to several high-ranking national ANC leaders was handpicked and awarded a tender in excess of half a billion rand to build toilets for a rural Eastern Cape municipality.
Siyenza Group was awarded the tender worth R631-million to build about 66000 toilets in villages by the Amathole district municipality. It has until June to finish the project.
A three-week investigation by the Saturday Dispatch has found that proper procurement processes were not followed, which the municipality has admitted.
The company has already been paid more than R60-million “for work already done” – but a visit to some of the sites this week revealed very little work had been done on the ground.
The company is owned by Butterworth-born businessman Bongani Mpeluza and has strong links to a group of politically connected individuals including ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe’s wife Nolwandle Mantashe.
Others linked to the company include President Jacob Zuma’s son-in-law Lonwabo Sambudla; Mantashe’s son Buyambo Mantashe; and Small Business Development Minister Lindiwe Zulu’s son Boitumelo Itholeng.
The Dispatch understands that Nolwandle Mantashe’s company has been subcontracted by Siyenza Group to provide “health and safety” services.
Their son, Buyambo, who just finished his studies at Fort Hare University last year, now works for her company.
The key figure behind them is emerging as Johannesburg highflyer and socialite Vuyani Gaga, a man known for his love of finer things in life. Gaga counts among his acquaintances Kenny Kunene and Gayton Mackenzie.
The contract was given to Siyenza in October last year despite having already been awarded to four other companies two months earlier.
Sources close to the sanitation project, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Siyenza was imposed on the municipality and appears to have been appointed due to its political connections.
The deal has been the talk of the town in Black Economic Empowerment circles for months now after some of the directors splashed out millions on luxury cars.
In December they were driving around in luxury cars including a brand new Porche Cayene, Lamborghini and a Ferrari.
They hosted a number of parties in Nahoon, East London, and in other up-market venues in Johannesburg and Cape Town.
There are reports they also bought two houses – including a R7-million mansion in Nahoon. This however could not be independently verified.
“These guys (Siyenza) came out of nowhere and were introduced to four suppliers that were initially appointed for the project.
“The local municipality had (already been) divided into clusters and each supplier had its own cluster,” said a well-placed source.
“But when these guys arrived they changed that and also changed agreements on prices,” a source said.
Siyenza Group has its headquarters in Johannesburg and a satellite office in Berea, East London.
ADM municipal manager Chris Magwangqana admitted the Siyenza Group was awarded the tender without following regular supply chain management tender processes.
He also admitted that about R286-million of the money was a loan from the Development Bank of Southern Africa (DBSA) as part of the Municipal Infrastructure Grant (MIG). He defended the municipality saying it needed to urgently appoint someone as the MIG had time-frames which needed to be met.
“Due to the limited time-frame set by DBSA and National Treasury another process of appointing – utilising section 32 of the SCM [supply chain management] regulation – was used.
As such the normal tender process was not followed,” Magwangqana said.
DBSA disputed this saying the bank did not give time-frames for projects it funded.
“The DBSA does not set time-frames or dictate implementation timelines to municipalities. ADM has been funded based on its future allocations,” DBSA spokeswoman Nonnie Letsholo said.
Siyenza’s Mpeluza also remained defiant this week claiming they had done nothing wrong. He said Siyenza Group had been approached to become the implementing agent for the project on behalf of ADM.
“We were approached by the ADM to assist them in this project and they told us that they had a section 32 rule which allowed them to procure services from a contractor, which is also providing similar services for another organ of state,” Mpeluza said.
He also confirmed that both Sambudla and Itholeng were part of Siyenza Group. He also confirmed the group had sub-contracted health and safety issues to Nolwandle Mantashe’s company and that her son Buyambo was one of her employees.
Numerous attempts to contact Gaga, Sambudla, Nolwandle Mantashe and minister Zulu were not successful.
Questions sent to Presidency spokesman Mac Maharaj went unanswered at the time of writing.
But Gwede Mantashe yesterday saw nothing wrong with his family members, and other politically-connected individuals working on the project.
He said allegations the tender had been awarded to Siyenza due to political connections were “malicious”.
“If my family members are employed in the project, what is a problem with that? My wife worked for Gold Fields, I never received an inquiry from a journalist.
She worked for PPC Cement, I never received any questions. But now she works for a small black company I get questions. I really do not understand the issue here.”
The Dispatch visited some of the sites this week and found very little work had been carried out. Some of the subcontractors have not been paid and the project, launched by President Jacob Zuma last October at Amahlathi municipality, has stalled in other areas.
During a visit to Machibi village near King William’s Town only one toilet structure had been erected. Some community members employed in January to dig holes for the structures moaned about non-payment.
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ANC faces behind toilet tender scandal
A company with links to several high-ranking national ANC leaders was handpicked and awarded a tender in excess of half a billion rand to build toilets for a rural Eastern Cape municipality.
Siyenza Group was awarded the tender worth R631-million to build about 66000 toilets in villages by the Amathole district municipality. It has until June to finish the project.
A three-week investigation by the Saturday Dispatch has found that proper procurement processes were not followed, which the municipality has admitted.
The company has already been paid more than R60-million “for work already done” – but a visit to some of the sites this week revealed very little work had been done on the ground.
The company is owned by Butterworth-born businessman Bongani Mpeluza and has strong links to a group of politically connected individuals including ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe’s wife Nolwandle Mantashe.
Others linked to the company include President Jacob Zuma’s son-in-law Lonwabo Sambudla; Mantashe’s son Buyambo Mantashe; and Small Business Development Minister Lindiwe Zulu’s son Boitumelo Itholeng.
The Dispatch understands that Nolwandle Mantashe’s company has been subcontracted by Siyenza Group to provide “health and safety” services.
Their son, Buyambo, who just finished his studies at Fort Hare University last year, now works for her company.
The key figure behind them is emerging as Johannesburg highflyer and socialite Vuyani Gaga, a man known for his love of finer things in life. Gaga counts among his acquaintances Kenny Kunene and Gayton Mackenzie.
The contract was given to Siyenza in October last year despite having already been awarded to four other companies two months earlier.
Sources close to the sanitation project, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Siyenza was imposed on the municipality and appears to have been appointed due to its political connections.
The deal has been the talk of the town in Black Economic Empowerment circles for months now after some of the directors splashed out millions on luxury cars.
In December they were driving around in luxury cars including a brand new Porche Cayene, Lamborghini and a Ferrari.
They hosted a number of parties in Nahoon, East London, and in other up-market venues in Johannesburg and Cape Town.
There are reports they also bought two houses – including a R7-million mansion in Nahoon. This however could not be independently verified.
“These guys (Siyenza) came out of nowhere and were introduced to four suppliers that were initially appointed for the project.
“The local municipality had (already been) divided into clusters and each supplier had its own cluster,” said a well-placed source.
“But when these guys arrived they changed that and also changed agreements on prices,” a source said.
Siyenza Group has its headquarters in Johannesburg and a satellite office in Berea, East London.
ADM municipal manager Chris Magwangqana admitted the Siyenza Group was awarded the tender without following regular supply chain management tender processes.
He also admitted that about R286-million of the money was a loan from the Development Bank of Southern Africa (DBSA) as part of the Municipal Infrastructure Grant (MIG). He defended the municipality saying it needed to urgently appoint someone as the MIG had time-frames which needed to be met.
“Due to the limited time-frame set by DBSA and National Treasury another process of appointing – utilising section 32 of the SCM [supply chain management] regulation – was used.
As such the normal tender process was not followed,” Magwangqana said.
DBSA disputed this saying the bank did not give time-frames for projects it funded.
“The DBSA does not set time-frames or dictate implementation timelines to municipalities. ADM has been funded based on its future allocations,” DBSA spokeswoman Nonnie Letsholo said.
Siyenza’s Mpeluza also remained defiant this week claiming they had done nothing wrong. He said Siyenza Group had been approached to become the implementing agent for the project on behalf of ADM.
“We were approached by the ADM to assist them in this project and they told us that they had a section 32 rule which allowed them to procure services from a contractor, which is also providing similar services for another organ of state,” Mpeluza said.
He also confirmed that both Sambudla and Itholeng were part of Siyenza Group. He also confirmed the group had sub-contracted health and safety issues to Nolwandle Mantashe’s company and that her son Buyambo was one of her employees.
Numerous attempts to contact Gaga, Sambudla, Nolwandle Mantashe and minister Zulu were not successful.
Questions sent to Presidency spokesman Mac Maharaj went unanswered at the time of writing.
But Gwede Mantashe yesterday saw nothing wrong with his family members, and other politically-connected individuals working on the project.
He said allegations the tender had been awarded to Siyenza due to political connections were “malicious”.
“If my family members are employed in the project, what is a problem with that? My wife worked for Gold Fields, I never received an inquiry from a journalist.
She worked for PPC Cement, I never received any questions. But now she works for a small black company I get questions. I really do not understand the issue here.”
The Dispatch visited some of the sites this week and found very little work had been carried out. Some of the subcontractors have not been paid and the project, launched by President Jacob Zuma last October at Amahlathi municipality, has stalled in other areas.
During a visit to Machibi village near King William’s Town only one toilet structure had been erected. Some community members employed in January to dig holes for the structures moaned about non-payment.
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durbandave
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http://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/anc-faces-behind-toilet-tender-scandal/
=========================QUOTE=========================
ANC faces behind toilet tender scandal
A company with links to several high-ranking national ANC leaders was handpicked and awarded a tender in excess of half a billion rand to build toilets for a rural Eastern Cape municipality.
Siyenza Group was awarded the tender worth R631-million to build about 66000 toilets in villages by the Amathole district municipality. It has until June to finish the project.
A three-week investigation by the Saturday Dispatch has found that proper procurement processes were not followed, which the municipality has admitted.
The company has already been paid more than R60-million “for work already done” – but a visit to some of the sites this week revealed very little work had been done on the ground.
The company is owned by Butterworth-born businessman Bongani Mpeluza and has strong links to a group of politically connected individuals including ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe’s wife Nolwandle Mantashe.
Others linked to the company include President Jacob Zuma’s son-in-law Lonwabo Sambudla; Mantashe’s son Buyambo Mantashe; and Small Business Development Minister Lindiwe Zulu’s son Boitumelo Itholeng.
The Dispatch understands that Nolwandle Mantashe’s company has been subcontracted by Siyenza Group to provide “health and safety” services.
Their son, Buyambo, who just finished his studies at Fort Hare University last year, now works for her company.
The key figure behind them is emerging as Johannesburg highflyer and socialite Vuyani Gaga, a man known for his love of finer things in life. Gaga counts among his acquaintances Kenny Kunene and Gayton Mackenzie.
The contract was given to Siyenza in October last year despite having already been awarded to four other companies two months earlier.
Sources close to the sanitation project, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Siyenza was imposed on the municipality and appears to have been appointed due to its political connections.
The deal has been the talk of the town in Black Economic Empowerment circles for months now after some of the directors splashed out millions on luxury cars.
In December they were driving around in luxury cars including a brand new Porche Cayene, Lamborghini and a Ferrari.
They hosted a number of parties in Nahoon, East London, and in other up-market venues in Johannesburg and Cape Town.
There are reports they also bought two houses – including a R7-million mansion in Nahoon. This however could not be independently verified.
“These guys (Siyenza) came out of nowhere and were introduced to four suppliers that were initially appointed for the project.
“The local municipality had (already been) divided into clusters and each supplier had its own cluster,” said a well-placed source.
“But when these guys arrived they changed that and also changed agreements on prices,” a source said.
Siyenza Group has its headquarters in Johannesburg and a satellite office in Berea, East London.
ADM municipal manager Chris Magwangqana admitted the Siyenza Group was awarded the tender without following regular supply chain management tender processes.
He also admitted that about R286-million of the money was a loan from the Development Bank of Southern Africa (DBSA) as part of the Municipal Infrastructure Grant (MIG). He defended the municipality saying it needed to urgently appoint someone as the MIG had time-frames which needed to be met.
“Due to the limited time-frame set by DBSA and National Treasury another process of appointing – utilising section 32 of the SCM [supply chain management] regulation – was used.
As such the normal tender process was not followed,” Magwangqana said.
DBSA disputed this saying the bank did not give time-frames for projects it funded.
“The DBSA does not set time-frames or dictate implementation timelines to municipalities. ADM has been funded based on its future allocations,” DBSA spokeswoman Nonnie Letsholo said.
Siyenza’s Mpeluza also remained defiant this week claiming they had done nothing wrong. He said Siyenza Group had been approached to become the implementing agent for the project on behalf of ADM.
“We were approached by the ADM to assist them in this project and they told us that they had a section 32 rule which allowed them to procure services from a contractor, which is also providing similar services for another organ of state,” Mpeluza said.
He also confirmed that both Sambudla and Itholeng were part of Siyenza Group. He also confirmed the group had sub-contracted health and safety issues to Nolwandle Mantashe’s company and that her son Buyambo was one of her employees.
Numerous attempts to contact Gaga, Sambudla, Nolwandle Mantashe and minister Zulu were not successful.
Questions sent to Presidency spokesman Mac Maharaj went unanswered at the time of writing.
But Gwede Mantashe yesterday saw nothing wrong with his family members, and other politically-connected individuals working on the project.
He said allegations the tender had been awarded to Siyenza due to political connections were “malicious”.
“If my family members are employed in the project, what is a problem with that? My wife worked for Gold Fields, I never received an inquiry from a journalist.
She worked for PPC Cement, I never received any questions. But now she works for a small black company I get questions. I really do not understand the issue here.”
The Dispatch visited some of the sites this week and found very little work had been carried out. Some of the subcontractors have not been paid and the project, launched by President Jacob Zuma last October at Amahlathi municipality, has stalled in other areas.
During a visit to Machibi village near King William’s Town only one toilet structure had been erected. Some community members employed in January to dig holes for the structures moaned about non-payment.
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Why am I not surprised to see showerhead and his corrupt cronies involved. The same people that these lot voted for are the ones "involved" in the companies awarded the contract.
Good for them. They get what they vote for. I will be laughing while I take a dump on my fully functional toilet tonight
grok
Honorary Master
The same ones who were specifically warned about electricity supply and they still couldn't prevent a catastrophy? I'd have to go with no.
In Africa, once the tender money is in the bank the peasants can go **** themselves.
And you simply never will Mantashe.
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Chris.Geerdts
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Once again, the poorest of the poor get a #$%$ deal (literally) whilst the rich politicians buy their porches on the proceeds
I actually lived in Peddie for 3 years and trained many people to build low cost toilets. Those loos would sooner fill up from year's of use than collapse down the hole, and it was all just based on simple design principles.
I actually lived in Peddie for 3 years and trained many people to build low cost toilets. Those loos would sooner fill up from year's of use than collapse down the hole, and it was all just based on simple design principles.
The_Unbeliever
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Extrapolating from that I can say that people are lazy, and want the government to build
[_] houses
[_] toilets
[_] sports facilities
[_] ___________________ (fill in your own choice)
for them instead of doing it themselves, and then complain about poor or shoddy workmanship....
HAL 9000
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VIDEO: Lid blown off toilet company
Siyenza Group, the politically-connected “company” that was awarded a R631-million contract to build thousands of toilets for villages of a rural Eastern Cape municipality, does not exist officially.
A Dispatch investigation into the awarding of the tender by the Amathole District Municipality, has found that Siyenza Group does not have a CK number.
It is not registered with the registrar of companies – the Companies and Intellectual Property Commission (CIPC).
ADM awarded the R631-million contract to Siyenza Group last year to build 66000 toilets in six municipalities.
The company has until June to complete this project.
But Companies and Intellectual Property Commission communication specialist Tshiamo Zebediela said the only Siyenza they have on their database of registered companies is called Siyenza Holdings. There is no relation between the two.
Though both Siyenza Group and the ADM claim that the company has handled multi-million-rands worth of construction contracts outside the Eastern Cape, today we can reveal that it is also not registered with the construction regulator.
Because of this, it does not have the Construction Industry Development Board grading – a strict requirement for any company to be given construction work in the public sector.
Read the full article here:
http://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/lid-blown-off-toilet-company/
Siyenza Group, the politically-connected “company” that was awarded a R631-million contract to build thousands of toilets for villages of a rural Eastern Cape municipality, does not exist officially.
A Dispatch investigation into the awarding of the tender by the Amathole District Municipality, has found that Siyenza Group does not have a CK number.
It is not registered with the registrar of companies – the Companies and Intellectual Property Commission (CIPC).
ADM awarded the R631-million contract to Siyenza Group last year to build 66000 toilets in six municipalities.
The company has until June to complete this project.
But Companies and Intellectual Property Commission communication specialist Tshiamo Zebediela said the only Siyenza they have on their database of registered companies is called Siyenza Holdings. There is no relation between the two.
Though both Siyenza Group and the ADM claim that the company has handled multi-million-rands worth of construction contracts outside the Eastern Cape, today we can reveal that it is also not registered with the construction regulator.
Because of this, it does not have the Construction Industry Development Board grading – a strict requirement for any company to be given construction work in the public sector.
Read the full article here:
http://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/lid-blown-off-toilet-company/
Albereth
Honorary Master
Hunt down the supply chain people as well as those who sat on the tender adjudication board at the municipality and make them pay back the money too.
