Racechip - Experience or advice?

[saturnz]

Please respond with a list of cars that can make 3 times their factory power output reliably but simply upping boost and fuelling.

Methinks it's going to be a very short/non-existent list.

the person who I responded to with that statement said its possible to make the engine a high powered one but questioned the reliability, in the statement nothing was said with direct reference to a standard engine or the mods that would be required to make such high power, as I understood that statement, it was a general observation he made.

I responded to that general statement with the example I provided. I agree I do not think its possible to simply up the boost on a standard engine as the turbo is simply too small, but if the boost allows for it the internals should be able to handle the boost.

I hope this clarifies why I said what I said, please feel free to ask other random questions but I can't guarentee an answer that will satisfy yourself.

 

[I.am.Sam]

Please respond with a list of cars that can make 3 times their factory power output reliably but simply upping boost and fuelling.

Methinks it's going to be a very short/non-existent list.

Alpha GTR

 

[silver6933]

Well if they sell a product they should of tested it to see what damages it can cause before selling such..... in my opinion

I agree, they SHOULD test. But at R4000, how much of that is available for testing and RnD.

And can they afford to buy the car, put the mods and then do proper reliability testing. On a low volume merc A200, this is very unlikely. A GTi, might have more RnD.

But generally at this price point, you are doing the RnD on your car. I.e you take the risk.

 

[crysis]

Alpha GTR

Those things get strengthened internals.

 

[TehStranger]

the person who I responded to with that statement said its possible to make the engine a high powered one but questioned the reliability, in the statement nothing was said with direct reference to a standard engine or the mods that would be required to make such high power, as I understood that statement, it was a general observation he made.

I responded to that general statement with the example I provided. I agree I do not think its possible to simply up the boost on a standard engine as the turbo is simply too small, but if the boost allows for it the internals should be able to handle the boost.

I hope this clarifies why I said what I said, please feel free to ask other random questions but I can't guarentee an answer that will satisfy yourself.

That sounds like a whole lot of nope right there. The way I see it this was the question:

Three times the power with no other mods than boost?

And this was the answer:

on this engine its possible, these cars come out with forged internals these days, just up the fuelling and you are fine, I can't see how you would put significant stress on the engine, infact its quite common to do with hot hatches.

But thanks for clarifying yourself, I can confirm that you have left me unsatisfied.

Alpha GTR

Computer says no my son.

 

[saturnz]

That sounds like a whole lot of nope right there. The way I see it this was the question:

you want to argue about what two other people spoke about? you really have nothing to do?

Yup it is forced induction which is precisely why I mentioned reliability.

You could easily make it a 1000kw motor if you wanted to...except it would only last about 5 seconds.

that is where I originally responded about reliability

in the next comment that I made I referred to the possibility of raising the output 30-40kw on standard internals

I don't see any inconsistency, but you clearly have nothing better to do today.

 

[Brenden_E]

Watch the video on the S4 posted by crysis. My uncle in Australia actually sells racechips on the side, and he says it surprised him how well it works.

 

[TehStranger]

I don't see any inconsistency, but you clearly have nothing better to do today.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

The way I see it:

My car makes nearly three times the power it came out standard, its my primary vehicle and I haven't had an issue with reliability for close to four years now.

Three times the power with no other mods than boost?

on this engine its possible

So what engine can possibly make 3 times the stock power with no other mods than upping boost?

 

[Pitbull]

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

The way I see it:







So what engine can possibly make 3 times the stock power with no other mods than upping boost?

He's talking utter k@k.

He added a Turbo to a non turbo car. With that comes a crap load of internals that needs to be changed. So by no means is he doing x3 the power with the same engine components... The Casing is the same, innards not.

 

[TehStranger]

He's talking utter k@k.

He added a Turbo to a non turbo car. With that comes a crap load of internals that needs to be changed. So by no means is he doing x3 the power with the same engine components... The Casing is the same, innards not.

saturnz talking k@k? No ways, not ever, I refuse to believe it. His reply will be well thought out and full of historical significance.

saturnz will surely deliver.

 

[saturnz]

He's talking utter k@k.

He added a Turbo to a non turbo car. With that comes a crap load of internals that needs to be changed. So by no means is he doing x3 the power with the same engine components... The Casing is the same, innards not.

at no point did I say you can up the power of a car three fold without changing its internals, but no way can you produce 1000kw from a standard engine with doing some upgrades either (the standard turbo simply wont spool fast enought), and the person I responded to spoke in that general case- thats the impression I got when he made that statement

I responded to that statement in the general sense by referring to my car, I didn't say it was a stock car that I simply upped the power on without mods. I also clarified my position with respect to standard cars and what they are capable of.

If I recall correctly, you spent 150k on a polo that went nowhere?

 

[Rusty0]

on this engine its possible, these cars come out with forged internals these days, just up the fuelling and you are fine, I can't see how you would put significant stress on the engine, infact its quite common to do with hot hatches.

A200 is not a hot hatch.

 

[saturnz]

A200 is not a hot hatch.

the engines are not miles apart, thats the point, and even if there are huge differences, cars fitted with 1.8- 2.0l motors generally can handle an additional 30-40kw in boost power on standard internals- whether forged or not.

 

[Pitbull]

at no point did I say you can up the power of a car three fold without changing its internals, but no way can you produce 1000kw from a standard engine with doing some upgrades either (the standard turbo simply wont spool fast enought), and the person I responded to spoke in that general case- thats the impression I got when he made that statement

I responded to that statement in the general sense by referring to my car, I didn't say it was a stock car that I simply upped the power on without mods. I also clarified my position with respect to standard cars and what they are capable of.

If I recall correctly, you spent 150k on a polo that went nowhere?

It went where I wanted it to go. Normal Aspirated.
But then again, takes a real petrol head to appreciate the work and effort to increase a car's horsepower and kw without a quick fix turbo. That Polo is probably on a scrap yard now. I have grown-up and appreciate my house more now then I do cars

 

[saturnz]

so thats a yes, you spent 150k on a car that went nowhere, and now you consider yourself a real petrol head, well done man

your opinions matter the most on this forum since I doubt anyone else here is stupid enough to spend that much on modifying a car that goes nowhere.

 

[Brenden_E]

so thats a yes, you spent 150k on a car that went nowhere, and now you consider yourself a real petrol head, well done man

your opinions matter the most on this forum since I doubt anyone else here is stupid enough to spend that much on modifying a car that goes nowhere.

LoL, R150K. Well no wonder he's bitter about this

 

[Pitbull]

so thats a yes, you spent 150k on a car that went nowhere, and now you consider yourself a real petrol head, well done man

your opinions matter the most

lol, what do you want me to say? Should I have kept the Polo and given it to someone to put on a show room floor to appreciate it's value?
Geesus, how old are you? Cars come and go I'm 34 years old and I have owned in a quick count, around 20 cars already. Out of them I figured I wanted a Sub 12s car. It ended up being a very costly exercise but I enjoyed each and every second of working on that car. I'm at a point in my life now where I own a house worth around R 2m, 2 cars of which both is just about paid off and a Bike.

We all grow up at some point... Some sooner than others I suppose

 

[Pitbull]

LoL, R150K. Well no wonder he's bitter about this

Bitter about what? You ok?

 

[saturnz]

lol, what do you want me to say? Should I have kept the Polo and given it to someone to put on a show room floor to appreciate it's value?
Geesus, how old are you? Cars come and go I'm 34 years old and I have owned in a quick count, around 20 cars already. Out of them I figured I wanted a Sub 12s car. It ended up being a very costly exercise but I enjoyed each and every second of working on that car. I'm at a point in my life now where I own a house worth around R 2m, 2 cars of which both is just about paid off and a Bike.

We all grow up at some point... Some sooner than others I suppose

oh you own a house of R2m and two cars thats just about paid off, well done man, you petrol head you.

I'm homeless with no cars, you certainly showed me and the rest of the forum whose the man here.

 

[Pitbull]

oh you own a house of R2m and two cars thats just about paid off, well done man, you petrol head you.

I'm homeless with no cars, you certainly showed me and the rest of the forum whose the man here.

I have better things to do now that put turbos on old has been E30 BMW's and Opels