Raid or PvP

Its brings up a difficult point.
Would you rather have blizzard hold your hand and allow you to see more content with nurfs and easy badge loot? or miss out content, much like happened to me with AQ40/Naxxrammas

Ultimatly I found the reduction from 40 man to 25 man the best change to allow players to experience more,strangly enough. PVE is about quailty of players. Many believe its just a matter of 'moving out of the fire' However theres alot more. I have yet to raid with 25 ppl who ooze excellence. And well 40 man was just destined to breed raids of omfgihavenoclue players.

Another thing is no matter how much you love PVE ,if you struggle to find a decent guild,your wow world would die. So in a way blizzard are forced to nurfbat their o so sexy encounters to keep us nibbling
 
Murdoc said:
Its brings up a difficult point.
Would you rather have blizzard hold your hand and allow you to see more content with nurfs and easy badge loot? or miss out content, much like happened to me with AQ40/Naxxrammas

Ultimatly I found the reduction from 40 man to 25 man the best change to allow players to experience more,strangly enough. PVE is about quailty of players. Many believe its just a matter of 'moving out of the fire' However theres alot more. I have yet to raid with 25 ppl who ooze excellence. And well 40 man was just destined to breed raids of omfgihavenoclue players.

Another thing is no matter how much you love PVE ,if you struggle to find a decent guild,your wow world would die. So in a way blizzard are forced to nurfbat their o so sexy encounters to keep us nibbling
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We have about 17 really skilled players, we have recruited some to try make the numbers and then been forced to remove them again due to them being of the OHAIHEFEPIXLOLKEK variety. We have tried to do 25 man with guilds in a similar position but have been let down on more than a few occasions so are stuck with HC and 10 man content and when luck has it, we can get a fair number of players in on a decent 25man pug (as happened last night). So in that regard we are glad of the 10 man raid size coming up in WOTLK, which means we can progress, albeit on scaled down content and still see/sample the end game content with players that have > 0.5 of a brain
 
Well i use to be into pvp and pve on my main shaman http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Ebz but after S3 finally getting my S3 shoulders i stoped focusing on PVP and worried about Sunwell raiding since i didnt really need the mount from Arena since luck was on my side and winning a 310% mount from TK ;>,but just yesterday my guild decided to disband after clearing 5/6 SWP ,now if i dont get into a new guild on my shaman i might start aiming for S4 stuff!
 
My personal feeling about wow has taken a dive at the moment. As d3th_n1gG4 said we had similar scenario, we had about 15 nice guys who all spoke English or at least understood it well, but we could not up it to 25 man so we kinda stagnated and people left, we joined an other guild now but they have most of the 25man places on farm and that is no fun either. As a relatively well geared player from the 10man instances i am hopelessly under geared for the 25man content (t5/t6) in which i am partaking as a warrior tank. I did a lot of pvp but even there we have lots of guys who would rather do a naked AB and loose quick than actually try to win a game......
With this whole free pvp epics and then drop of attunemnets is is like the whole morale (for lack of a better word) has dropped and people would rather roll over and give up then to try and win. It could be that we just have a sucky realm but i cant/willnot transfer and leave my other chars on the realm.
Blizz will really have to pull something out the sock to get met to continue WoTLK.
 
Go to a high populated server these crappy low populated so called better ping servers is screwing you guys pve wisely its insanely hard to get into the top25 there. At the moment there is 4 guilds on my server who's downed Kill'Jaedin about 25 who's cleared hyjal and Bt. Pve progression is going good and if I don't like my current 1 I go to the next shop.
As for the people saying the TK and BT attunement still need to be there, I agree to some extend but also the 1st 3 bosses in BT and 4 hyjal is a joke you really don't need skill or much coordination for them.
 
I myself use to be on a low populated server with my guild before we decided to move the guild to Stormreaver from Bladefist.We only were able to kill Brut about 2 times because we bearly ever had the setup and there where no other players from other guilds on the server with the gear for sunwell,and we cant afford to gear every single new person in the guild.Once we migrated though,we had 2 guilds merging with us and we managed to clear 4/6 SWP in the 2 weeks we were there.
Was great being on the a populated server aswell because of loads of high end guilds doing Pug MH's since most of us didn't have MH as a progress raid so we could gear our alts up and have some fun on weekends :p
 
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