Rape

DJ... said:
There is absolutely buggerall subjectivity with regards to spousal rape. The fact that you think so is disgusting. Aren't you married?
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Well, I'd have to agree that after the fact, it can be a very hard thing to prove, in the absence of physical injury.

Obviously the act in itself, is a horror to any rational person.
 
DJ... said:
There is absolutely buggerall subjectivity with regards to spousal rape. The fact that you think so is disgusting. Aren't you married?
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My English is poor DJ I'll admit, did I somehow use the word "subjective" out of context? I don't think so.
 
Ekstasis said:
My English is poor DJ I'll admit, did I somehow use the word "subjective" out of context? I don't think so.
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It's possible that you did. Subjectivity implies that the act itself is open to some form of interpretation, which it isn't. Spousal rape is no different to any other case of rape and to label it as subjective is to say that there are circumstances in which it is somehow okay.

If you're as repulsed as any other decent human being by rape, then you've used the wrong word and that's completely understandable. Maybe what you were trying to say is that proving spousal rape is far more difficult than most other cases, as copa said, which is unfortunately true. That's very different to saying that spousal rape is a matter of subjectivity...
 
DJ... said:
It's possible that you did. Subjectivity implies that the act itself is open to some form of interpretation, which it isn't. Spousal rape is no different to any other case of rape and to label it as subjective is to say that there are circumstances in which it is somehow okay.

If you're as repulsed as any other decent human being by rape, then you've used the wrong word and that's completely understandable. Maybe what you were trying to say is that proving spousal rape is far more difficult than most other cases, as copa said, which is unfortunately true. That's very different to saying that spousal rape is a matter of subjectivity...
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Good heavens! That's a big mistake on my part.Sorry for confusion - yes, that's exactly what I meant.
 
abandonallhope said:
South African society really is just as depraved as the worst out there.
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Nothing to do with South Africa really.

ld13 said:
Being raped by your own husband ... what has this world come to? :mad:
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Might still be legal in several US states. In some places fundamentalist Christian groups were strongly opposed to it being made illegal.
 
No is no. Why force the issue? Doesn't matter which spouse is the instigator. Male marital rape (and even non-marital rape) is less spoken of, it's more seen as taboo. As disgusting as it is with referral to women, it's equally as bad with reference to men.
 
D3x! said:
Seriously?
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I guessed as much. You don't have a definition of consent. So, nice to throw around that simple statement, sex without consent, but you can't say exactly what one of those words means. Now this is not unusual. Many throw around that apparently straightforward statement without ever having taken the time to really ponder what truly constitutes consent.
 
noxibox said:
I guessed as much. You don't have a definition of consent. So, nice to throw around that simple statement, sex without consent, but you can't say exactly what one of those words means. Now this is not unusual. Many throw around that apparently straightforward statement without ever having taken the time to really ponder what truly constitutes consent.
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Is it a nod ?
Or is it a wink ?
Make very sure
That it is what you think;
Or you'll be hit with everything,
Including the kitchen sink!
 
noxibox said:
What is consent?
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noxibox said:
I guessed as much. You don't have a definition of consent. So, nice to throw around that simple statement, sex without consent, but you can't say exactly what one of those words means.
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I'm sure it's a trick, but I'll bite :

consent [kənˈsɛnt]
vb
1. to give assent or permission (to do something); agree; accede
2. (intr) Obsolete to be in accord; agree in opinion, feelings, etc.
 
Pitbull said:
I agree with Marine, however:

Not to the rape part. If a wife doesn't want get some freak on, she must accept the he/I will find it somewhere else. Men need to get laid, be it by his wife or a someone willing. This should then not be grounds for a divorce :mad:
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WORD
 
Dolby said:
I'm sure it's a trick, but I'll bite :

consent [kənˈsɛnt]
vb
1. to give assent or permission (to do something); agree; accede
2. (intr) Obsolete to be in accord; agree in opinion, feelings, etc.
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Your move noxibox
 
noxibox said:
I guessed as much. You don't have a definition of consent. So, nice to throw around that simple statement, sex without consent, but you can't say exactly what one of those words means. Now this is not unusual. Many throw around that apparently straightforward statement without ever having taken the time to really ponder what truly constitutes consent.
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No I said that as you are obviously just trolling :rolleyes:
 
noxibox said:
I guessed as much. You don't have a definition of consent. So, nice to throw around that simple statement, sex without consent, but you can't say exactly what one of those words means. Now this is not unusual. Many throw around that apparently straightforward statement without ever having taken the time to really ponder what truly constitutes consent.
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If you cannot grasp a simple word like consent then I have no hope for you, more simple than that you cannot get.
 
VeNGeNCe said:
Five pages on and OP is still nowhere to be seen.
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The OP was doing some damage control and providing moral support since that post. Some context on the situation:

A female friend of mine is getting a divorce after 8 years of marriage. In short,
- She is the main breadwinner in the house. They got 2 young kids.
- He is 20ish years older than her. Jobless. Extremely dominant over her. Controlling/Possessive like hell.
- Does not think foreplay is important, wham.bam.thankyoumam is the only sexual position he knows.
- He cares more about his 30+ different failing businesses ideas (playing facebook games while wifey is @ work) than his wife. Kept his wife out of all his business deals, now he owes the banks some ridiculous amounts of $$$.
- blah blah blah

She moved out to her own little place to get away from the emotional and psychological abuse after she told him she wants to divorce.

Month or two later he could not afford the rent anymore, ended up 'living on the streets' for a night or two - she caved and let him sleep at her place while he 'looks for a new place'. Of course, being the sly bastard that he is, he took full advantage of the situation to continue his rain of psychological and emotional abuse.

All of this lead up to an altercation at her work this Wednesday. Later that night they were once again fighting when she downed half a bottle of wine - not having a high tolerance for alcohol, she soon found her way to bed and blacked out/fell asleep. This is when the swine decided to make his move and had his way with her. She only woke up after the fact.

At this stage the finalization of the divorce is like ~ a week away as it has not been contested (doubt he has the $$$ to contest it, or he just forgot about it).
 
Disgusting. Over and above the physical and psychological abuse, that is rape and she should have him thrown in jail.
 
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