Raru's unethical behaviour

archimedes

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So will try to keep it short.

Placed an order for a Hikvision NVR about 3 weeks ago. Price was really good so was a no brainer. Took a snapshot of the page as well (first time buy with Raru). There was a delay getting the stock from the supplier and they notified me when it arrived at Raru. Logged onto raru to check other items and then went back to check the spec on the NVR again (POE ports) and noticed the barcode changed but everything else stayed the same including the product description. They delivered the product the next day but I then returned it as the barcodes matched but not the product description. To cut a long story short they have been blaming the suppliers for the last two weeks for incorrect descriptions (i have followed on multiple occasions including being ignored last week) but I know this is not true as Hikvision knows their products. I then googled a bit and realised the original barcode and product description match exactly- what they have done is created a narrative that the supplier made an error. So if they supplied what I paid for and what was advertised then there were no issues. And to really show you they messed up, they have another listing with the same original barcode and product code still listed on their site but for R1000 morewhich they have not taken down.

So in summary -the original advert, product specs, barcodes and product description all tied up, they took the money, changed the barcode without saying a word, delivered a different product and then said the website was incorrect (but only after they changed it)- they could have been upfront and said they underpriced the product and I would have understood (also gave them this chance over the phone).

There behaviour is unethical. Now to decide how to take it up next (as I still have all the screenshots showing the original and changes as they went along until the page got taken down today).
 
Thank you for bringing the issue to my attention. I have followed up with our returns people. They did make a mistake in the way they handled this return's request, and not noticing that it was a listing error on our part.

The two products codes in question are:

DS-7716NI-I4 (The unit ordered)
DS-7716NI-I4/16P (The unit you wanted)

Our data feed automatically pulled in the listing info for DS-7716NI-I4/16P instead of DS-7716NI-I4, from there the listing error.

We will supply you the DS-7716NI-I4/16P you were looking for. Our Customer Services will be in touch.
 
Takes screenshot upon purchase? That tells me someone expected an error and something must have triggered that thought pattern which isn't forthcoming now...
 
Thank you for bringing the issue to my attention. I have followed up with our returns people. They did make a mistake in the way they handled this return's request, and not noticing that it was a listing error on our part.

The two products codes in question are:

DS-7716NI-I4 (The unit ordered)
DS-7716NI-I4/16P (The unit you wanted)

Our data feed automatically pulled in the listing info for DS-7716NI-I4/16P instead of DS-7716NI-I4, from there the listing error.

We will supply you the DS-7716NI-I4/16P you were looking for. Our Customer Services will be in touch.
And that's the way you handle customer service +1
 
Takes screenshot upon purchase? That tells me someone expected an error and something must have triggered that thought pattern which isn't forthcoming now...

Lol, that's like saying you expected to crash because you were insured. In the real world life happens.

I snap as well. I've had too many niggly issues later when a copy of the snap solves everything conclusively and everybody is happy. The point is you have no control over what the other side publishes including changes. When the net started I had something change and not available when I tried using it as evidence. Lesson learnt.
 
I always take screenshots as well... just too many past issues with online deliveries not to.

Thank you for bringing the issue to my attention. I have followed up with our returns people. They did make a mistake in the way they handled this return's request, and not noticing that it was a listing error on our part.

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We will supply you the DS-7716NI-I4/16P you were looking for. Our Customer Services will be in touch.

Well done. Nicely handled. Rep to the rep.
 
Takes screenshot upon purchase? That tells me someone expected an error and something must have triggered that thought pattern which isn't forthcoming now...

I've done that too if I'm expecting issues, and its not always price related.

Takealot did something simliar to me, had a product that was listed as dishwasher safe... turns out it wasn't... they changed the product page, and then denied the warranty claim saying it wasn't dishwasher safe.

The manual still had the item as dishwasher safe.
 
So why wasnt this handled directly with them?Why a thread?
 
I've done that too if I'm expecting issues, and its not always price related.

Well that is exactly what I was alluding to...OP was expecting issues so clearly must have spotted something is off.[/QUOTE]
 
So why wasnt this handled directly with them?Why a thread?

Why not? Based on post #4 he did the right thing.

I also take screen shots and photos and whatnot - too many issues these days with oopsy this and oopsy that.
 
Why not? Based on post #4 he did the right thing.

I also take screen shots and photos and whatnot - too many issues these days with oopsy this and oopsy that.

Didnt realise myBB was their support system aswell kinda like how its Afrihosts and Webafrica etc.
 
I take screenshots a proof. You never know!

Same, if a retailer is significantly cheaper than everyone else, it's always good to keep notes.

This is thanks to good old Kalahari and Takealot, who used to quietly change listings and imply that it was impossible and that I must have imagined it.

At any rate, if you do forget to take screenshots, Google's cache is your friend. ;)
 
And that's the way you handle customer service +1

As much as I want to +1 this, why could it not have been resolved on the first call? How long did the OP try and get it resolved via email and phone calls?
 
Thank you for bringing the issue to my attention. I have followed up with our returns people. They did make a mistake in the way they handled this return's request, and not noticing that it was a listing error on our part.

The two products codes in question are:

DS-7716NI-I4 (The unit ordered)
DS-7716NI-I4/16P (The unit you wanted)

Our data feed automatically pulled in the listing info for DS-7716NI-I4/16P instead of DS-7716NI-I4, from there the listing error.

We will supply you the DS-7716NI-I4/16P you were looking for. Our Customer Services will be in touch.

That's really nice to see! Keep it up!

My Raru orders have been without issue so far ;)
 
As much as I want to +1 this, why could it not have been resolved on the first call? How long did the OP try and get it resolved via email and phone calls?

Falls in the category of schite happens unfortunately. get where you coming from though.
 
So some interesting comments..

On why screenshots, i even take camera snaps of the codes of appliances i buy at the physical retailer and confirm thats what is delivered, why because i have had this happen before including physical retailers where the salesman stuffs up and the special has ended when its time to resolve. Each to his own but costs me nothing to take the screenshot on purchases that are over 5k.. Nice to see I'm not the only one. For those that are interested, wayback archive was even used to take on a company regarding changing their specs on their website..

On why this thread.. Because I have made the phonecall to Raru as well as off these forums realised I should use the customer services email address to resolve the issue which emailed a lot.. Gave them multiple occasions to come clean but continously blamed the supplier- at least the reason provided now holds and makes sense. I did ask them to confirm how they would like to resolve before I took my next step (this was the next step).
I have done positive feedback as well on other suppliers (mostly directly on their websites) so don't judge people on a single thread rather why do these forums exist other than for dialogue, advice and sharing experience...
[MENTION=10885]Neil[/MENTION], this was about how an issue was resolved and managed. I'm a CFO in a relatively large financial services provider (my business does around 1bn in profit a year) and we focus a lot on client experience and engagement as no system ever really works a 100% in our sector (I'm sure you understand this far better having been in business longer than me). Everything up until now was a frustrating experience. If you can ensure in future that the actual process and feedback cycle is improved then that would be a great outcome. And well done on at least turning this around with the response on the thread (just felt i was a policeman until we got the real issue out).

Thanks
 
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