Ratel 860p battery Upgrade

Dee96

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Following on this comment from another thread, I thought we could start a thread to share idea's on how to execute the upgrade on the Ratel 860p from 8 batteries to 16.
Credit to @x7razor for the initial info.



In my mind, these are the steps needed to execute which we will attempt to solve on this thread
1) Sourcing decent 18650 rechargable batteries. At a minimum, we should aim for 2200mah which is the same as the current batteries.
2) Figuring out how to covert a 4s2p battery set up to a 4s4p set up.
3) Figuring out what additional minor components are needed such as what gauge wiring, battery housing, etc.
4) Figuring out if the battery status indicator will automatically detect the new batteries or if any additional chamges are required.
5) Check for overheating and decide if a small fan is needed.

Please let me know if I have missed anything then we can tackle each point.
 
To kick us off... I suggest the below battery for point 1... R115 each is a decent price and Samsung is a safe choice

 
Regarding batteries, I'd recommend these.
Back when I partook in the art of vaping, 30Q batteries were the de facto for everyday needs in terms of capacity.
 
Regarding batteries, I'd recommend these.
Back when I partook in the art of vaping, 30Q batteries were the de facto for everyday needs in terms of capacity.
Looks good....
I really hope someone here knows how we can convert from 4s2p to 4s4p

I am watching YouTube and it seems more complex than I planned
 
Looks good....
I really hope someone here knows how we can convert from 4s2p to 4s4p

I am watching YouTube and it seems more complex than I planned
Does Batteryexperts not sell pre-packed? Might even find on takealot, as you even get pre-packed sets for hover boards on there now
 
To kick us off... I suggest the below battery for point 1... R115 each is a decent price and Samsung is a safe choice

What about spending a bit more and getting 3400mAh batteries?
 
Does Batteryexperts not sell pre-packed? Might even find on takealot, as you even get pre-packed sets for hover boards on there now
A plug and play solution will be great if we find one.

Creating another 4s2p battery pack is relatively simple. All it takes is tape, batteries, Nickel Tape to join the batteries and a soldering iron or spot welder.
Tons of vids on YouTube that shows the step by step process.

I like this one until the 4:30 mark when they switch to balancing

Put it this way, if you can connect a 3 pin plug and solder a little, it's doable.

The real question is how to connect the new battery pack to the existing pack or to the battery management system.
Let's hope someone with electrical know how joins our mission
 
I might have to buy a Netogy UPS and do this upgrade. Then I will have a 100W capable UPS with larger batteries.
 
To kick us off... I suggest the below battery for point 1... R115 each is a decent price and Samsung is a safe choice

And I guess this is where the challenge starts. For all the effort, at R115 per battery, shipping, DIY etc, I might as well just buy another Ratel and get it over and done with
 
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And I guess this is where the challenge starts. For all the effort, at R115 per battery, shipping, DIY etc, I might as well just buy another Ratel and get it over and done with
I agree it's effort but there are guys on the forum that enjoy tinkering and learning about new stuff.

Also we can do the upgrade for between R500 and R600 where you can get a Ratel for like R1300 last I checked. Also another Ratel requires another solar panel which is another R700 so R600 and time vs R2000....

It won't be for everyone but some people may actually enjoy the "effort"
 
Wh
I agree it's effort but there are guys on the forum that enjoy tinkering and learning about new stuff.

Also we can do the upgrade for between R500 and R600 where you can get a Ratel for like R1300 last I checked. Also another Ratel requires another solar panel which is another R700 so R600 and time vs R2000....

It won't be for everyone but some people may actually enjoy the "effort"
How can you do the upgrade for under (at least) R800? Unless you use cheap batteries, which is obviously not ideal
 
Wh
I agree it's effort but there are guys on the forum that enjoy tinkering and learning about new stuff.

Also we can do the upgrade for between R500 and R600 where you can get a Ratel for like R1300 last I checked. Also another Ratel requires another solar panel which is another R700 so R600 and time vs R2000....

It won't be for everyone but some people may actually enjoy the "effort"

How can you do the upgrade for under (at least) R800? Unless you use cheap batteries, which is obviously not ideal
All of this being said, it should be a fun project, and having only one Ratel would obviously be ideal.
 
Wh
I agree it's effort but there are guys on the forum that enjoy tinkering and learning about new stuff.

Also we can do the upgrade for between R500 and R600 where you can get a Ratel for like R1300 last I checked. Also another Ratel requires another solar panel which is another R700 so R600 and time vs R2000....

It won't be for everyone but some people may actually enjoy the "effort"
Do you have a link to the correct solar panel? Would love to get one
 
Do you have a link to the correct solar panel? Would love to get one

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