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Hello all. I'm new to the forums here and I have a query with regards to Static IPs on ADSL accounts in South Africa. I do apologise in advance if this topic has already been flogged to death, a quick search on the forums did no yield a concrete yes or no on this question.

Does any ISP in this country provide a true and proper static IP on a business ADSL account? By true and proper I mean an actual IP address that you manually configure into your router and not this LT2P tunneling business. I have emailed about a dozen ISP's already and not one of them can / will offer such a service. The only options that seem available are leased line or fibre at a cost of approx ZAR7K per month, which is an absurd amount to have to fork out just because one requires a proper static IP address.

I don't mind paying for such a service, but within sane and reasonable limits.

If such a service cannot be purchased in South Africa, does anybody have any info on which model of Cisco router supports the LT2P protocol required in order to use the so called static IP's that are commonly touted by a number of ISP's.

Thanks in advance.
 
Unfortunately due to Telkom this can not be done in SA, therefore ISP's have opted for the L2TP solutions in order to provide static IP's to their clients. Not too sure about the Cisco's but most of the ISP's will provide a router with the needed configuration to establish the L2TP connection to their LNS.
 
Our work adsl line has static ip with IS (cisco router), if another router was added with say AXXESS details on it would it work?
 
Mandal said:
Hello all. I'm new to the forums here and I have a query with regards to Static IPs on ADSL accounts in South Africa. I do apologise in advance if this topic has already been flogged to death, a quick search on the forums did no yield a concrete yes or no on this question.

Does any ISP in this country provide a true and proper static IP on a business ADSL account? By true and proper I mean an actual IP address that you manually configure into your router and not this LT2P tunneling business. I have emailed about a dozen ISP's already and not one of them can / will offer such a service. The only options that seem available are leased line or fibre at a cost of approx ZAR7K per month, which is an absurd amount to have to fork out just because one requires a proper static IP address.

I don't mind paying for such a service, but within sane and reasonable limits.

If such a service cannot be purchased in South Africa, does anybody have any info on which model of Cisco router supports the LT2P protocol required in order to use the so called static IP's that are commonly touted by a number of ISP's.

Thanks in advance.
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Good Morning, please DM me your contact details and I will have our business team call to provide you the options we have available.
 
Hemps said:
Our work adsl line has static ip with IS (Cisco router), if another router was added with say AXXESS details on it would it work?
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If the Cisco has PPP pass-through enabled and you do the dial-up form the other router you might be able to establish a connection but this will be a separate WAN connection and will not receive a static IP from IS.
 
dtj said:
If the Cisco has PPP pass-through enabled and you do the dial-up form the other router you might be able to establish a connection but this will be a separate WAN connection and will not receive a static IP from IS.
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So i remove the cisco from the equation and add a router with another ip's details it should also work?
 
Mandal said:
Hello all. I'm new to the forums here and I have a query with regards to Static IPs on ADSL accounts in South Africa. I do apologise in advance if this topic has already been flogged to death, a quick search on the forums did no yield a concrete yes or no on this question.

Does any ISP in this country provide a true and proper static IP on a business ADSL account? By true and proper I mean an actual IP address that you manually configure into your router and not this LT2P tunneling business. I have emailed about a dozen ISP's already and not one of them can / will offer such a service. The only options that seem available are leased line or fibre at a cost of approx ZAR7K per month, which is an absurd amount to have to fork out just because one requires a proper static IP address.

I don't mind paying for such a service, but within sane and reasonable limits.

If such a service cannot be purchased in South Africa, does anybody have any info on which model of Cisco router supports the LT2P protocol required in order to use the so called static IP's that are commonly touted by a number of ISP's.

Thanks in advance.
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Used Mweb before we went the fibre route, we received 5 static IP's that you can assign to your equipment without L2TP, one of the 5 IP's are assigned to a cisco router provided by mweb so you can use 4 of them for your firewall/router or whatever you want to assign it to.
 
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So i remove the cisco from the equation and add a router with another ip's details it should also work?
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Well... not too sure what you are trying to achieve but if you remove the Cisco with the L2TP details from the line you will not receive the static IP any more, if you add another router that has the ability to do L2TP and all the NAT-ing required for these solutions as well as the L2TP setup details for that ISP then yes you will be able to use it.

But from what I have experienced from ISP's like IS is that this info is preconfigured and you will most likely not have access to it.

Hope this make sense...?
 
Thanks for all the responses folks. However some of the suggestions floated are referring to ISP's that offer a static IP via a LT2P tunnel - VOX, MWEB the last time I spoke with one of the guys from MWEB he informed me that the ONLY way they can assign a static IP is via LT2P, has something changed recently???.

I require a static IP that is manually configured into my own hardware. I have my own router & UTM (with built in ADSL module) but it does not support this LT2P tunnel protocol, and frankly I find this a really bizarre way of assigning a static IP. I do not want to purchase any additional equipment for the rack if necessary, as the hardware we have already is perfectly adequate for our needs.
 
Mandal said:
Thanks for all the responses folks. However some of the suggestions floated are referring to ISP's that offer a static IP via a LT2P tunnel - VOX, MWEB the last time I spoke with one of the guys from MWEB he informed me that the ONLY way they can assign a static IP is via LT2P, has something changed recently???.

I require a static IP that is manually configured into my own hardware. I have my own router & UTM (with built in ADSL module) but it does not support this LT2P tunnel protocol, and frankly I find this a really bizarre way of assigning a static IP. I do not want to purchase any additional equipment for the rack if necessary, as the hardware we have already is perfectly adequate for our needs.
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As mentioned the only way to get a static IP would be via L2TP with your ISP. Telkom does not allow for static IP's on their infrastructure and as you know all ISP's need to make use of this infrastructure, so the only way to give their client 's the static IP option would be to have them establish a L2TP tunnel to their LNS. Your routers config will basically be set up to route all traffic via this L2TP tunnel and it will recieve a Static IP from the LNS.

Why not make use of DynDNS?
 
dtj said:
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So i remove the cisco from the equation and add a router with another ip's details it should also work?
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Well... not too sure what you are trying to achieve but if you remove the Cisco with the L2TP details from the line you will not receive the static IP any more, if you add another router that has the ability to do L2TP and all the NAT-ing required for these solutions as well as the L2TP setup details for that ISP then yes you will be able to use it.

But from what I have experienced from ISP's like IS is that this info is preconfigured and you will most likely not have access to it.

Hope this make sense...?
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At the moment we paying 4k per month for 4MB/s business uncapped with static ip! BDSL

And we want to cancel the existing setup, so presuming we just cancel data package with ISP and pay telkom for adsl line.
Wasn't sure if the adsl line as it stands connected to IS needs some tinkering before another router with different ISP can be added like AXXESS whom we thinking of going with.
 
Mandal said:
Thanks for all the responses folks. However some of the suggestions floated are referring to ISP's that offer a static IP via a LT2P tunnel - VOX, MWEB the last time I spoke with one of the guys from MWEB he informed me that the ONLY way they can assign a static IP is via LT2P, has something changed recently???.

I require a static IP that is manually configured into my own hardware. I have my own router & UTM (with built in ADSL module) but it does not support this LT2P tunnel protocol, and frankly I find this a really bizarre way of assigning a static IP. I do not want to purchase any additional equipment for the rack if necessary, as the hardware we have already is perfectly adequate for our needs.
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Just phone mweb business and get the details from them, no need for you to setup any LT2P tunnel, you just assign the IP to a network interface (be it a pc, server, firewall, router or what ever.)

(ADSL Business account that is, not the cheap home accounts)
 
Hemps said:
At the moment we paying 4k per month for 4MB/s business uncapped with static ip! BDSL

And we want to cancel the existing setup, so presuming we just cancel data package with ISP and pay telkom for adsl line.
Wasn't sure if the adsl line as it stands connected to IS needs some tinkering before another router with different ISP can be added like AXXESS whom we thinking of going with.
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Just keep the line with Telkom and you can connect to any ISP you wish!:D
 
Mandal said:
For reasons to do with security and privacy, also there are no devices on the network capable of initiating such a connection.
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I see, well then the VPN solution might not be a bad option with the L2TP secured tunnel....???
 
irBosOtter said:
Just phone mweb business and get the details from them, no need for you to setup any LT2P tunnel, you just assign the IP to a network interface (be it a pc, server, firewall, router or what ever.)

(ADSL Business account that is, not the cheap home accounts)
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I'm almost certain they also make use of the L2TP solution, the only difference is they provision this on the router which makes the setup hassle free for the client.
 
Have PM'd MWEB guy on this thread, although I have discussed this very same topic with them in the past (business accounts dept.), and all they seemed to want to do was sell me a Cisco router (along with ISP services of course:-) ) to add into my rack, a router that I would be locked out of. As mentioned by dtj repeatedly, it seems the only way a static IP can be assigned in SA is via LT2P tunnel, unless of course something has changed at MWEB.
 
dtj said:
I see, well then the VPN solution might not be a bad option with the L2TP secured tunnel....???
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We are wary of connecting any third party devices to our network, especially ones over which we are locked out of. If worst comes to worst we may have to utilize this LT2P solution, I first wanted to exhaust any and all possibilities of being able to get a static IP (cost permitting of course) that we can manually configure directly into our own hardware. If not then we'll need to purchase a ADSL modem / router capable of initiating the LT2P tunnel, ideally a Cisco, hence my query regarding this in the original post.
 
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