Recent gun amnesty

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marine1

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So according to stats which are probably half of whats going on, gun crime is up dramatically. I want an explanation from gvt and gun free SA. They said crime would come down due to all legal guns being handed in and the opposite has happened after being warned this would happen. Anyone who handed in their legal guns are idiots.
 
To be fair, not everyone who handed the guns in were idiots. Relicensing was deliberately made difficult and inconvenient, and most of the people who handed their guns in weren't told that there were alternatives to handing in - they were deliberately misinformed by our own police. Many were told that it was mandatory to hand their firearms in.

Most of the people who handed their guns in were older people who didn't have the time, energy and money to comply with the relicensing process. The same older people who are mercilessly victimised and need these firearms in order to level their chances against sadistic criminals who can easily physically overpower them.
 
Yeah, having a loose gun in the house isn't the brightest of ideas.
 
The government shouldn't worry about the people who have guns legally. Its the illegal one's they should try get hold of.

People who have a licence and prints taken took the initiative to arm themself legally in the event that they need to defend themself.
By taking the legal guns away , u are simply making it much much easier for the criminals. Cause they can now rob and loot homes almost having a 80-90% gaurantee that the home would not be able to offer much resistance.

With the crime rate this high, it must seem to anyone with some sence that "Crime does Pay in SA" :>
 
Marine1 has got a point.

What would bring it more into context would be the amount of firearms handed in vs crime committed through the use of firearms.

Also, how many victims of crime had actually handed in their firearms.
 
It takes 2 years to get a firearm now. And you are not guaranteed to get one after those 2 years. They make it impossible for people trying to defend themselves against these animals.

Gun control has not affected the criminals, it has made the public weak and easy targets. The police cant protect us, were not allowed to have guns, and when we do defend our families, and kill one of these criminals - then you are treated like a murderer. If you shoot someone inside your own house or property - you are in big sh*t.

The message goverment is trying to send out is 'we want stricter gun control, so the crime level can go down'. The real message is 'we dont want you to fight back, while there is 'wealth distribution' going on'.
 
The gun license application fiasco isn't helped by the large number of people who off their families then suck the barrell themselves.
 
I read the other day that you aren't even allowed to bodily harm a criminal if u catch him inside your home with your tv in his hands.

My question is how would the scenario go then??

"Hey Mr.Thief , please leave my tv, and show yourself out"

... I think not.
 
How old do you have to be to get a gun...
 
Fudzy said:
Yeah, having a loose gun in the house isn't the brightest of ideas.
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The 'amnesty' had nothing to do with loose guns around the house.

Fudzy said:
The gun license application fiasco isn't helped by the large number of people who off their families then suck the barrell themselves.
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Nothing to do with licensing. The licensing issue is bad policy, bad procedures and thorough mismanagement.

Also, most of the people who do this are either soldiers, security guards... or policemen. They use the weapons they go to work with every day.

Napalm said:
I read the other day that you aren't even allowed to bodily harm a criminal if u catch him inside your home with your tv in his hands.
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True. You may place the thief under arrest, but you may not assault or shoot at him. The thief has presented no threat of harm to you, and won't as long as all he's holding is the TV. However, the moment he prevents a threat to you or anyone else, you may use whatever means are neccessary and justifiable in order to eliminate the threat.
 
The 'special circumstances' provision applies mostly to younger sportsmen. Unfortunately it is almost never approved. This means that it is more difficult to get younger shooters into the shooting sports, and as a consequence SA has become uncompetitive with regard to sport shooting. Other countries have younger shooters and better equipment, seeing as it's near impossible to get licenses even for sporting guns. Particularly if they use a caliber for which you already own a firearm.

But of course, the government doesn't care about sporting use. The only view they see through their fearful and tainted eyes is of killing.
 
Yeah, I figured... might as well provide some useful information regardless. Hey, people, bring your kids along to the shooting range on Eufees! Fun for the family! Only one problem, when they move on with their own lives they'll no longer be able to shoot because they can't get a gun in their own name...

It's the sweetest thing seeing a 7 year old girl and a 5 year old boy trying to outshoot each other with daddy's .22 pistol. :p
 
The gun licensing process should be made as easy as possible - the more guns you have licensed the more likely you are going to be able to trace a shooting back a certain firearm
 
AFAIK, the current legislation allows people to shoot a maximum amount of ammo per year.

Proper gun legislation should have people shooting a minumum amount of ammo per year, to ensure that they know how to use the gun properly and are not a danger to themselves and those around them.
 
Tassidar said:
AFAIK, the current legislation allows people to shoot a maximum amount of ammo per year.

Proper gun legislation should have people shooting a minumum amount of ammo per year, to ensure that they know how to use the gun properly and are not a danger to themselves and those around them.
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I was not aware of a maximum amount of rounds you could fire. :confused:

I do agree that there should be a minimum amount of range time required.
 
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