Recommend me a device - IPad alternative

wizardofid said:
Performance wise the yoga wins on the ipad, that is if you compare to the standard ipad which is what the OP did. I pad pro on the other is a difference story each one have their merits. With the yoga and active pen will be ALOT better then the standard ipad, ipad pro about even.

Price/value/hardware/functionality beats the pants off the standard ipad, ipad pro does offer some stiffer competition but it has a few more cons then the yoga.Yoga vs surface/ ipad pro each have their pros and cons and each offer value over the other in certain aspects.

You simple can't compare the standard ipad with the yoga, you need to compare to the ipad pro and then things actually get more interesting and not exactly as clear cut.

Considering the budget, cheapest ipad pro is around R17 000 and still excludes the pen and keyboard, the surface having similar pricing it would be the yoga especially with the active pen, which about as close as you going to get to a surface tablet, and it has a fully fledged windows 10, which means it can pretty much handle any thing the OP can throw at it workwise.

With pricing in mind, weight is really a none issue, sure it's double the weight of the ipad pro, but hardly a uncomfortable weight at around 1.4Kg is hardly problematic.

Considering the price comparison you have to start looking at what the two device can and can not do.Having apple this dongle and apple this dongle especially with the ipad pro, already pisses me off and send apple a f you and move along.
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He was referring to the iPad Air, which has the A12 processor, I cannot figure out what exact processor the Yoga has, but the A12 is quite impressive (for a tablet)...
The weight is about 3 times as much. It would really bother me, but I am not the OP.
I have not used the active pen, so I cannot really weigh in on that.
I do agree that they are completely different devices with different use-cases. The Yoga can replace a laptop and be a tablet. The IPad is a tablet only.

I am not saying the Apple is the right answer, I just like to to take the opposing view. (And I really don't like Windows on a tablet)
 
hjst45 said:
I haven't seen an iPad or a tablet in years, whereas everyone had one during the peak...

Biggest reason being smartphones becoming bigger (physically) and surpass hardware capabilities of tablets.

First Samsung tablet was a 7inch when phones were still 4inch...

Now, the average size of a phone is around 6inch...
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So the hauwei m6 and m5 with kirin 980 is useless comparatively with phones.Samsung galaxy S6 with snapdragon 855. If you take "flagship" phones off the board and compare the rest the all pretty much average, considering the form factor between tablets and phones is exactly the same. Reason you don't get flagship chips in tablets in general is due to the fact being quite power hungry and the larger screens doesn't help at all. Which is why in general the most energy efficient chipsets are used in tablets.

Tablets in general have significantly longer screen time, I don't sit around playing with my phone, it's on my table and check it every now and then, considering tablets have significantly longer screen on time, there are some practical limitations hardware wise.

Tablets are about energy effiency and performance.
 
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Anyone traveling abroad? If so, get a Surface Go. Perfectly capable and competent little machine, esp when upgraded to Win 10 Pro. For light and easy it can't be beat. Wife and I each travel with the 128GB/8GB model.
 
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P924 said:
He was referring to the iPad Air, which has the A12 processor, I cannot figure out what exact processor the Yoga has, but the A12 is quite impressive (for a tablet)...
The weight is about 3 times as much. It would really bother me, but I am not the OP.
I have not used the active pen, so I cannot really weigh in on that.
I do agree that they are completely different devices with different use-cases. The Yoga can replace a laptop and be a tablet. The IPad is a tablet only.

I am not saying the Apple is the right answer, I just like to to take the opposing view. (And I really don't like Windows on a tablet)
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lowest processor you should consider in the I3, there is an i5 and a i7, even the i3 edges out the
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Apple A12 Bionic vs Intel Core i3-8130U: What is the difference?

What is the difference between Apple A12 Bionic and Intel Core i3-8130U? Find out which is better and their overall performance in the mobile chipset ranking.
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The yoga weighs 3 pounds and the ipad pro 1.5 pounds , the standard ipad 1 pound and the ipad air around 1.5 pounds as well.
 
wizardofid said:
lowest processor you should consider in the I3, there is an i5 and a i7, even the i3 edges out the
versus.com

Apple A12 Bionic vs Intel Core i3-8130U: What is the difference?

What is the difference between Apple A12 Bionic and Intel Core i3-8130U? Find out which is better and their overall performance in the mobile chipset ranking.
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The yoga weighs 3 pounds and the ipad pro 1.5 pounds , the standard ipad 1 pound and the ipad air around 1.5 pounds as well.
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Alright, you win on weight, but that processor comparison tool is very questionable... It claims the A12 is 2.59x faster than the i3...

Edit: the ipad air is 1.02 pounds...
 
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I have a spare Surface Pro 3 i5 if your supply chain doesn't mind buying from an individual, otherwise I would also recommend looking at the lenovo or dell laptops that support an active stylus.
 
wizardofid said:
So the hauwei m6 and m5 with kirin 980 is useless comparatively with phones.Samsung galaxy S6 with snapdragon 855. If you take "flagship" phones off the board and compare the rest the all pretty much average, considering the form factor between tablets and phones is exactly the same. Reason you don't get flagship chips in tablets in general is due to the fact being quite power hungry and the larger screens doesn't help at all. Which is why in general the most energy efficient chipsets are used in tablets.

Tablets in general have significantly longer screen time, I don't sit around playing with my phone, it's on my table and check it every now and then, considering tablets have significantly longer screen on time, there are some practical limitations hardware wise.

Tablets are about energy effiency and performance.
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Although I do agree with most of what you said, I have to say that my Ulefone Armor 3 will destroy any tablet in a screen time test :D
 
P924 said:
Alright, you win on weight, but that processor comparison tool is very questionable... It claims the A12 is 2.59x faster than the i3...

Edit: the ipad air is 1.02 pounds...
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lol Ninja edit :D was sure the air weighs 1.5, it's the other way around lol. Still 1.4kgs for the yoga isn't back breaking.

Not sure on the a12 vs i3, but I know the mobile version is a lot slower then desktop counter part.Not sure about exact performance difference between the i3u and a12 but it does seem suspect.
 
wizardofid said:
lol Ninja edit :D was sure the air weighs 1.5, it's the other way around lol. Still 1.4kgs for the yoga isn't back breaking.

Not sure on the a12 vs i3, but I know the mobile version is a lot slower then desktop counter part.Not sure about exact performance difference between the i3u and a12 but it does seem suspect.
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The A12 seems to be somewhere between the i5 and i3 - more than what you could need in a tablet imo.

iPad Air (3rd generation) vs LENOVO 81DE - Geekbench

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1.4kg will be uncomfortable if you are reading/watching a video somewhere other than at a table.
 
Ecko_1 said:
Let me clarify. The default choice in the business has been an iPad with keyboard and stylus. IT has suggested that I consider other options in that price bracket that meet my needs. Doesn't have to be an iPad.

I would love to get a Surface Pro but they aren't available in South Africa (not officially), and would work out more than the iPad. So I essentially can get whatever I fancy, as long as I am not spending much more than the iPad.
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So stick with what the business uses and what is available.

Everything else is either not an option or just rubbish.

If there is really a requirement for cost cutting then forego the Air and get the normal iPad.

Also forget cellular as it adds expense and isn't necessary.
 
wizardofid said:
10 000 mah is useless :D :p Well if you have the P23 chipset, the P70 chipset with 8 000 mah battery should beat it :D
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"10 000 mah is useless :D :p " - Hmm, do you charge your phone every 4 days like mine? :unsure:

"P70 chipset with 8 000 mah battery should beat it :D " - I'd take that bet...
 
hjst45 said:
"10 000 mah is useless :D :p " - Hmm, do you charge your phone every 4 days like mine? :unsure:

"P70 chipset with 8 000 mah battery should beat it :D " - I'd take that bet...
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lol my phone currently shows 104 hours and 257 hours with max battery saver, and that is with a 2500mah battery.That said I use my phone as a phone.Considering I have a tablet and do tabletly things on it you would do on your phone, it isn't fair to you. :D But generally it's on permanent battery saver and on average charge it every 10 odds days.
 
Arthur said:
Anyone traveling abroad? If so, get a Surface Go. Perfectly capable and competent little machine, esp when upgraded to Win 10 Pro. For light and easy it can't be beat. Wife and I each travel with the 128GB/8GB model.
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I will be in London in early December. Want to see if I can just get a Surface Pro while I am there.
 
wizardofid said:
Old school I like it .............lol.......... We could take it one step further and get him in the 21st century and recommend a LCD writing pad. lol :D
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P924 said:
If that is really all it will be used for perhaps a notepad and pencil will be the better choice?
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Main use is to be able to work on the go...ie a lite version of work. E-mails, document viewing. Some light excel work. Anything extensive and i will make sure my laptop is available. When I travel to Jhb I want to just take the smaller device as I travel to attend meetings and just need to look at work stuff between meetings and while travelling.
 
Ecko_1 said:
I will be in London in early December. Want to see if I can just get a Surface Pro while I am there.
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Lekker. Just make sure the Touch Cover keyboard is US not UK.

I've had successive generations of the Surface Pro. I must confess I prefer the little Surface Go. More than adequate for all regular Windows-based consumption.
 
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