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[kingmonty]

Hey all... there's an excellent post on slashdot (you can find it here). Some very interesting comments were made by everyone. The article is also very interesting.

Sidenote: for those that don't know: Telstra is Australia's version of Telkom. The Australian government has also recently ordered Telstra to be split into two competing parts: One for Voice/Data/ISP type services and the other infrastructure/basic service (which is sold wholesale to the aforementioned arm of Telstra at the same price as to any other service provider).

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Meanwhile, we're still getting shafted by every SA company in existence *sigh*

 

[krycor]

yah have you noticed that some industry's in SA has a monoply player and that the goverment in most cases gave them it to them.

 

[kingmonty]

Well, I think splitting the telco may be an option for the SA government - not that they'd go that route - but it may have worked

 

[doobiwan]

Personally I prefer the punitive approach. Don't split Telkom. Relicense the environment such that an infrastructure provider can't be or own a service provider.
MTel/MTN
Vodazone etc/ Vodacom
Telkom/Telkom

That will level the playing field and cause a bit of pain as well. Loverrrly

 

[ambo]

Well, I think splitting the telco may be an option for the SA government - not that they'd go that route - but it may have worked

Why the hell not????

at this very moment Eskom is in the process of a similar split - into Generation, Transmission and Distrobution... and then in the future they plan to allow service providers to compete in each tier of the system....

Telkom and Eskom are both parastatals - Eskom just knows a bit about good business, and they also listen to their regulator!

 

[ic]

I agree with splitting Telkomonopoly, not that I fully understand SAIX, but if that could be split away as a wholesale bandwidth provider, selling at regulated prices to everyone, well I'd be happier with SA Telecoms...

 

[ambo]

The way i understand it: SAIX is kinda a cross between an ISP and a backbone provider...
Ideally i think you would want to split telkom into:
A backbone/bandwidth provider with proper regulation and competition
An ISP that is on the same level as all the other ISP's
and A customer lines section - providing the final links to the clients.

 

[kingmonty]

Why the hell not????

at this very moment Eskom is in the process of a similar split - into Generation, Transmission and Distrobution... and then in the future they plan to allow service providers to compete in each tier of the system....

Telkom and Eskom are both parastatals - Eskom just knows a bit about good business, and they also listen to their regulator!

Telkom is less of a Parastatal than Telkom - Telkom are listed on two Stock Exchanges and have a 10 year "buy out" scheme with the government - Eskom don't. Incidentally, Telkom likes the Microsoft model of doing business, and as such, will in any event do everything they possibly can to stop such a plan to ever get into motion. Eskom are splitting (over many years already) because they want to position themselves for a bigger move int competition rich countries in Africa - Telkom want to monopolise africa.

Don't get me wrong - I think that splitting Telkom into two - Telecoms Provision and Wholesale Only would be very beneficial - to competition and finally to us consumers. I just don't think Telkom will go that route - and quite frankly, the Government often sees things the same way as Telkom tells them to.

 

[Darth Garth]

at this very moment Eskom is in the process of a similar split - into Generation, Transmission and Distrobution.

And do you reckon the consumer benefits from this ???.

Red one is going live in Western Cape soon and all indications are that electricity prices will have to increase for us to pay for another bloated burocracy skimming their bit of the cake.