Renault clio Advice needed

ok, so lets say Renault wins the day, what would be a better option of these two, for reliability and value, taking into consideration I dont expect her to have the car longer than 3 years:

Renault Clio 2003, 1.2 FH 70,000km, asking 55k, will offer 45-48k
or
Renault Megane 2000 1.4 FH 125,000km, asking 35K, will offer 32-33k
 
I guess the Megane would probably be a better option in if you only intend to keep it for less than 3 years. If you get it for R30 - R35K, it's unlikely to depreciate much in 3 years. 125000km is also not TOO bad, have it checked out by a mechanic or the AA, expect to pay +- R2K for a decent service, but you should be ok.. Not much else you could buy for R30K that's not 20 years old and not a tazz or a golf (I know I keep ranting, but those cars are bad news...)
 
We actually test drove 1 of those clio's when they were new, can't remember what year anymore. Was looking for my MOM for a car - got a polo tdi instead.
1 thing it definitley has is some good brakes and abs!
For a student and 1st time buy, that clio sounds really good and can't really depreciate alot anymore.
The megane will always be the bigger/better car, but would be older for the same money.

If she drives alot of highways and get's to do with alot of trucks and big car/bakkies going fast- then clio no way, Megane+

If it is around the jhb city streets and University/Technikon = Clio a winner!

The problem is with small cars, they are small which means there is less metal between you and a big truck etc. and combine that with fast highway speeds! = disaster no matter how much airbags and whatever it's got.

Megane is bigger and designed alot stronger for such applications.

Renault can't be as half as bad as a VW and i love VW's, i myself rather got me a Ford than getting a vw for an it/retail support job.
R700 for a normal service is more or less the same as an Ford KA/Fiesta, but even though i like ford also alot. The clio is surely a winner for that price and the coolness like the girlchild said!
Tazz/CitiGolf = very high risk, insurance don't want to even cover it for a student driver unless you pay through your ears!
Avis/VW can't even sell they're stock, you see city's everywhere and that surely must be a sign.

Go for the Renau, as long as it has fsh and looks like it has been taken good care of. Like the 1's you have found.
 
thanks for all the input.
Re AA reports - who pays for them - the seller or buyer?
 
LancelotSA said:
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Fairly reasonable for me to assume you were agreeing with the fact that they cost a fortune to repair.... hence me further assuming this referred to prices...
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Not really - I was more interested in the REPAIR part - which implies work out of servicing.

CaTcH21 said:
:eek: VW is none the better ... not sure about the others though
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Reliability? My golf 4 never gave me a days problem until I crashed it.
 
Servicing on most cars now days is pretty much all around about the same cost.....

But as xrapidx says, its the out of service repairs that cost a fortune, esp on fully imported cars because of course all the parts need to be imported as well.
 
xrapidx said:
Not really - I was more interested in the REPAIR part - which implies work out of servicing.
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What are you on about? Everything I said still applies. That Kinsey report also looks at repair costs, it is not only service parts!

Kim_Webchick said:
I would stay away from French cars, their services are crazy in price, and their parts are also over the top.
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Have you read through the whole thread? Evidence to the contrary has been posted...

ToxicBunny said:
But as xrapidx says, its the out of service repairs that cost a fortune, esp on fully imported cars because of course all the parts need to be imported as well.
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Most of us have insurance. We all only pay the excess so surely if this were the case it would not really be of much concern as I would still only need to pay the excess.



Everyone against the OP getting a Clio seems to repeat the same thing without much tangible evidence to prove what they are saying. It is not car specific, in fact not even manufacturer specific, but an entire blanket "avoid French cars..... seems to make me question the reasoning for these comments....
 
LancelotSA said:
What are you on about? Everything I said still applies. That Kinsey report also looks at repair costs, it is not only service parts!
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Not the cost - the fact that these vehicles constantly need repairs - RELIABILITY.


LancelotSA said:
Have you read through the whole thread? Evidence to the contrary has been posted...
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You mean an opinion to the contrary.
 
xrapidx said:
Not the cost - the fact that these vehicles constantly need repairs - RELIABILITY.

You mean an opinion to the contrary.
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I like to think of the Kinsey report as evidence but I can see how you wouldn't! And you were not saying reliability, you showed afreement to someone who mentioned costs! And then your next comment also failed to mention reliability.

Its not only parts, but service quality and service cost.
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So perhaps you should stop back tracking now...
 
LancelotSA said:
I like to think of the Kinsey report as evidence but I can see how you wouldn't! And you were not saying reliability, you showed afreement to someone who mentioned costs! And then your next comment also failed to mention reliability.
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Gee...I'm so sorry I didn't mention whether I was refering to repairs or cost of repairs in his post about both.

Don't want to inconvienence you at all...
 
xrapidx said:
Gee...I'm so sorry I didn't mention whether I was refering to repairs or cost of repairs in his post about both.

Don't want to inconvienence you at all...
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Ha ha pathetic.... neither of those would matter as you now claim to be referring to reliability! Your opinion would be so much more believable to people if you didn't keep flip flopping...
 
furnic said:
thanks for all the input.
Re AA reports - who pays for them - the seller or buyer?
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The seller ,but it would have to be negotiated between on a private sale.
If it is a big cost, then maybe try and share te cost. As long as it gets done, but a seller should actually pay for this to show that the vehicle is in a good state as he says it is. AA Autobay could also maybe help, if something is not right on the car they won't place the add until he returns with the things fixed.

Selling 2 cars on AA Autobay @ the moment and they just take the jokers and other things out of the hassle of selling the car.
 
LancelotSA said:
Ha ha pathetic.... neither of those would matter as you now claim to be referring to reliability! Your opinion would be so much more believable to people if you didn't keep flip flopping...
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The only thing pathetic here is you and your good news crap.

I've never had to pay for a part on a french car so cost isn't an issue to me - I've only had to return it to the dealers for reliability, and more than once for the same issues.

But go ahead - live happily with your crappy little french car - if you read carefully, most people are on this side of the fence in this thread.
 
xrapidx said:
The only thing pathetic here is you and your good news crap.

But go ahead - live happily with your crappy little french car - if you read carefully, most people are on this side of the fence in this thread.
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Ha ha here we go so now the truth comes out. The whole time this had very little to do with Renault, or Clios, or anything of the sort, but was rather an issue you have with me being positive and having a desire to spread good news... Fair enough at least you got that out in the end!

And don't make me go and count the pluses and minuses on this thread....
 
LancelotSA said:
Ha ha here we go so now the truth comes out. The whole time this had very little to do with Renault, or Clios, or anything of the sort, but was rather an issue you have with me being positive and having a desire to spread good news... Fair enough at least you got that out in the end!
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Yup... thats it... I posted in this thread because I knew you were going to respond, and then I could start something with you.
LancelotSA said:
And don't make me go and count the pluses and minuses on this thread....
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Remember not to count yours more than once..
 
Hey xrapidx
So I am undecided on the Renault, as I said they are packed with features and the service fees are the same as every one else - I gather the issue lies when its not a service problem but some part - then the costs go through the roof?

I can't seem to find though any other make from 2000 - 2004 that is FH and sells from 35k - 50k? The fiats lack features, some of the fords have AC some don't, and the tazz and opel I have been told are no gos (not cool enuff).

I do like the POLO but those are expensive and citi golf just too fugly.

I can find maybe a kia or a tata - but if I am back at imported cars then isn’t Renault then a better deal?
 
Thing is, my ex always had problems with her Renault, and I know a few other people with the same experience, repair cost wasn't an issue because it was under motorplan - but its the inconvienence of taking it back all the time.

I've owned a two VW's, a Hilux and a Honda - and none have given me any major hassels. (Besides the Golf, but that was due to a bad accident).
 
furnic : You may need to reign girl child in and tell her she's getting a decent car and whether its cool enough or not is not a factor... :)

But I'm seeing lots of cars in the 35k - 50k range... lots have A/C at least...
 
ToxicBunny said:
furnic : You may need to reign girl child in and tell her she's getting a decent car and whether its cool enough or not is not a factor... :)

But I'm seeing lots of cars in the 35k - 50k range... lots have A/C at least...
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ROFl..... I guess someone doesn't have a girl child
 
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