Replacing Mac OS X with Linux

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I am about to entirely replace OS X with Linux. I am pretty clued up as an experienced Linux user but far from being a true geek.

Mac: I like the hardware but not the OS. So I am not really interested in dual-booting at all.

Current MacbookPro (Mavericks) is a 2012 i5 2.5GHz with 4GB DDR and an aftermarket WD 1TB HDD and Mint 17.1 LiveSession runs rather well.

Also considering a new MacbookPro 15" 2.2Ghz i7 Quad with 16GB DDR, IrisPro and a 256GB SSD.

Questions:

Is there any reason NOT to replace the entire OS X?

Will the Macbook allow replacing OS X?

How well does Linux (Mint) handle the Retina display? Will it at least do 1920x1080 resolution, or can Linux go higher?
 
If you are not interested in os X buy a better spec pc for half the price and slap mint on it.
 
If you are not interested in os X buy a better spec pc for half the price and slap mint on it.

exactly, running Linux on a mac is a pain, I've been there before with endless grub/efi issues and bad driver support. The only other OS meant for a mac is windows an only officialy run via bootcamp.
 
Seriously, if you don't like Mac OS X, get a PC and install Linux. You will always have driver issues. Why even bother? me personally, I don't understand why you would want to do it anyway, I do not find Linux suitable for using as a general desktop OS. The Mac is more than capable of doing everything a Linux machine can and more. All the CLI stuff as well as running X applications. You then also have the ability to run all the Mac software too.
 
Well linux mint is general sustainable as a OS so is Ubuntu
 
Mac OS is good for DTP and design. Windows is good for gaming. Linux is good for everything.
 
At OP - going off Mac, what will your new forum handle be?

At others: With home-brew you can do everything Linux can do. I also think people overlook how little maintenance a OS X system requires. Windows people have to tinker all the time and even our locked down Windows PCs in the office (some 20 of them) require frequent maintenance. I have yet to come across something on the Mac which I can not do (granted, gaming is limited and I hate dual-boot).
 
I use to use something else before homebrew, and realised there were missing apps I wanted or needed. Switched to homebrew, and found everything I need, and there is a lot more I don't. I am a Linux sysadmin, and a network admin, and both tasks I can do just fine on Mac, where I used to do everything on Linux.

The other advantages of Mac is, you also get to use the M$ stuff, if your company is also heavily invested in both Linux and Windows, much like most small-to-medium sized ISPs where I work. So I have the boring stuff like Office which is needed to work with documents on our Sharepoint servers ect.

My Linux needs are maybe not as big as others, I use:
- ZSH
- general DNS utils like dig, whois ect
- troubleshooting utils for the Mac itself, here it can be a hit and miss. For example there is top, iftop ect, but atop is missing, although I use this more on servers than on my Mac so not an issue

The thing is, you can go with your Linux apps, but I found for the gui, Mac has some really awesome native apps that is far better than any Linux app. Sadly some needs buying, but I so far only found 1 app that I want to buy, which is Royal TSX, and even that you can just stick to MS remote desktop and the command line SSH util.
 
at work I run OS X, it just works. at home, Windows, because games. Everywhere else, linux.

I think people should use what's most suited to their needs and stop debating obvious flaws in each one of them.
 
Lots of debate about whether you should do this or not, so I won't jump on that bandwagon too :-)

Questions:

Is there any reason NOT to replace the entire OS X?

Will the Macbook allow replacing OS X?

How well does Linux (Mint) handle the Retina display? Will it at least do 1920x1080 resolution, or can Linux go higher?

I can add my 0.02BC to try and answer some of your questions, though.

The only technical reason not to replace the entire OS might be to be able to do firmware upgrades. This is easily solved by simply keeping a small OSX partition just for this purpose, though.

As far as the Macbook allowing you to replace the OS, sure you can do this. I recently installed openSUSE on my Macbook, using mostly the info from http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_a_Mac. I'm using rEFInd (http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/) as boot manager, and have had no problems with the EFI / boot side of things.

I'm afraid I don't have any specific experience with Mint, and don't have a Retina display on my 2011 Macbook, so can't comment on that.

I hope this helps.
 
So many opinions, but thanks for all the insights.

Mac OS X and iOS caused havoc (and thousands of Apple fanboys swarmed to support forums in frustration) and I then found that the Macs in my home worked better when using a Google account than when using iCloud. At the time, we lived where Internet was sketchy at best, so we really needed the former Apple USB sync.

We have moved meanwhile and our ISP mada date much cheaper, as a bonus, so that we can now use cloud options.

Our Linux Mint experience is that hardware that had worked before updates also work well after updates. Apple really did lose credibility in that department and, at the cost, one would have expected better service. We also had sufficient joy from Windows 8 and it is up to the user to decide what is nice and what isn't.

After all, as we now are using cloud-based office solutions, any machine that can run a good browser with ease is good enough. Now why the interest in Mac? OK, we already bought two and a third or fourth (even a good used one) won't come amiss. That is part of the answer, but sentiment aside, that backlit chicklet keyboard is a boon, especially in low light conditions and some of us here don't enjoy the sharpest eyesight around.

I have been running Linux Mint 17.1 64-bit for a while now, as a live session booted from USB, on a MBP i5 2.5Ghz 9Ivy Bridge) and only experienced bliss. Everything just works, perhaps because it is Mint, which is a more "complete" distro. It even goes to sleep and wake up without any hiccups and it can run forever without even needing a reboot. It connects to other devices more easily than Mac OS and therefore it is so much more enjoyable. As it uses very little RAM, Mint does not tax the MBP's resources at ll.

The Linux festish only exists because we also have OLD computers here and Linux is the ONLY operating system that van be brand new AND run well. Honestly, our Mint installations always have been problem-free. We have tried other distro's but those all offered their share of frustration.

I did have a look at other brands offering backlit keyboards and HD displays, these all cost about the same as a 13" MBP Retina. There is a Dell Inspiron 7537 i7 dual 2.0GHz with a Geforce GT750M+2GB and 16GB DDR3-1600 on-board, 15.6" HD display, 4 USB 3 ports, also made of aluminium at about R1k cheaper than the 13" Mac and it has a 3-year on-site warranty. And it has that backlit keyboard that had become essential. Offerings from Asus and Lenovo also look good, in the same price range, and then there are MSI and Gigabyte, brands I do not really know well in terms of notebooks.

Our Mac's still on Mavs and not Yosemite; afraid to update & upgrade anything Apple after the disasters of 2013 and 3014. It were wireless connectivity, USB sync, then iCloud %$@#& up user data...the list is long and endless. Let us not go there again!

I had a little Dell i3 with just 2GB RAM and Windows 8 that really performed well above expectations and a Samsung i5 on Win 7 that is tedious at best, despite a format and clean install. Windows 7 seems to be laggy and not good on a mere i5 2.5GHz.

So, if anything can run Chrome in a stable way and has a backlit keyboard, that's all that is really needed (as long as we have internet!)
 
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