Reverend criticises Zuma wedding

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The leader of the Christian Democratic Party has described President Jacob Zuma's traditional wedding on Monday as a "giant step back into the dark ages". Zuma's wedding "to a woman he is reported to have already fathered three children with, and the alarming return to ancestral worship is a giant step back into the dark ages," said CDP leader Rev Theunis Botha.


Zuma married his fifth wife, Thobeka Madiba, outside his homestead on Monday afternoon in a colourful traditional wedding which attracted scores of guests and media.


It was the same ancestral traditions that had plagued Africa in the past and that had kept it (Africa) in superstition and poverty, and not colonialism as some people believed, he claimed.


Botha is also acting chairman of the Christian Democratic Alliance.


"Very little has been done since ‘independence' in the way of development, with few that do not rely on handouts, especially from the West," he said.


It was up to the churches to speak out about ancestral worship practices.


"Political parties doing so, when the churches are silent, are exposing themselves to undue criticism of being anti-black or racist," said Botha.


The president's other wives are Sizakele Khumalo, whom he married in 1973, and Nompumelelo MaNtuli-Zuma, whom he married in 2007.


He was previously married to current Home Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma, whom he divorced in 1998, and Kate Mantsho Zuma, who committed suicide in 2000.


Zuma is the father of 18 children.


He is also engaged to Gloria Bongi Ngema from Durban. Her family presented umbondo (gifts) to the Zuma family at the end of December.


Umbondo is the last Zulu traditional ceremony before the wedding. It was done after ilobolo had been paid.


It was not known when Zuma would tie the knot with Ngema.
 
You can't be in the light and in the dark. He must choose between christianity and traditional believes. Wonder how many children we don't know about.
 
I wouldnt care if Zuma married his 30th wife , what bothers me is that this deluded man insults another man`s traditions and he conveniently forgets that `our` African traditions are not the only ones which afford polygamy . The muslims are able to marry many wives but not a word from this church man . To add insult to injury he speaks in a god gave me authority sense , like he is the official word on Africa .
 
Intolerance towards someone with different beliefs(as this CDP dude seems) would more accurately be described as an attitude from the dark ages.
 
I wouldnt care if Zuma married his 30th wife , what bothers me is that this deluded man insults another man`s traditions and he conveniently forgets that `our` African traditions are not the only ones which afford polygamy . The muslims are able to marry many wives but not a word from this church man . To add insult to injury he speaks in a god gave me authority sense , like he is the official word on Africa .

Yet Zuma appeals to the Christians as a Christian. This is an insult and mockery to someone's religion.

He is more than welcome to embrace his traditional roots, and I have no problem with that. However, he is no Christian and should not present himself as such.
 
Intolerance towards someone with different beliefs(as this CDP dude seems) would more accurately be described as an attitude from the dark ages.

Ah, but where your argument fails is that Zuma claims to embrace the same beliefs; when clearly he is more intent on following a traditional religion.
 
Yet Zuma appeals to the Christians as a Christian. This is an insult and mockery to someone's religion.

He is more than welcome to embrace his traditional roots, and I have no problem with that. However, he is no Christian and should not present himself as such.


Christianity has many sects. There are Christians in other countries who practice polygamy.

Does the Bible say polygamy is un-Christian ?
 
Yet Zuma appeals to the Christians as a Christian. This is an insult and mockery to someone's religion.

He is more than welcome to embrace his traditional roots, and I have no problem with that. However, he is no Christian and should not present himself as such.

+1. Thats what I was thinking as well.
 
Yet Zuma appeals to the Christians as a Christian. This is an insult and mockery to someone's religion.

He is more than welcome to embrace his traditional roots, and I have no problem with that. However, he is no Christian and should not present himself as such.
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Dont make assumptions that Zuma is a christian , you saw him on tv at a church . The church man is highly critical of our African traditions . He singles this one out . Can you point out were this holyman says Zuma is moonlighting ? Now , he forgot the other people with the same traditions , e.g Arabs and indian chappies .
 
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Dont make assumptions that Zuma is a christian , you saw him on tv at a church . The church man is highly critical of our African traditions . He singles this one out . Can you point out were this holyman says Zuma is moonlighting ? Now , he forgot the other people with the same traditions , e.g Arabs and indian chappies .

"It is God's will that the ANC should rule South Africa until Jesus returns". Now fsck me if I'm wrong, but was Jesus a Zulu prophet?

Then you admit he lies? Good, now we're on the same page.
 
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"It is God's will that the ANC should rule South Africa until Jesus returns". Now fsck me if I'm wrong, but was Jesus a Zulu prophet?

Then you admit he lies? Good, now we're on the same page.

stop reaching . Did Mr Zuma say he is a christian ??
 
IN HIS OWN WORDS: JACOB ZUMA AND RELIGION

2003: On being blessed:

"I arrived from Jordan this morning just after 5 o'clock... I must say I took advantage of being in Jordan to go to the River Jordan where Jesus was baptised - I was around there. Jericho and Jerusalem were just across the Dead Sea. So, if I look at anyone, he or she will be blessed." (HANSARD; [24 June 2003]; Column 347.)

2004: On who God supports:

"[Those who vote for the ANC will be] blessed on earth and heaven (sic)" (Sowetan; [5 March 2006]; "ANC voters will be blessed - Zuma".)

2004: On how long the ANC will rule:

"The ANC will rule South Africa until Jesus comes back." (Business Day; [15 March 2004]; "ANC will rule SA until Jesus comes back, says Zuma".)

2006: On why he is like Jesus:

In an interview with a newspaper, Zuma states he is "like Christ", that the media and his detractors wanted to nail him to the cross like Jesus, and that certain newspapers had sought to "crucify him". (Sowetan; [24 March 2006]; "I'm like Christ - Zuma".)

Following Zuma's comments, many of his supporters embraced the comparison, carrying signs which read "Zuma is Jesus" and asking "Why are you crucifying Zuma?" - as they protested outside the court where he was appearing on a charge of rape. One supporter carried a wooden, home-made crucifix bearing a picture of Zuma with outstretched arms.

2007: On how long the ANC will rule, again:

"That is why we believe [the ANC] will be in power forever until the son of man comes back." (SAPA; [27 October 2007]; "ANC ‘will be in power forever' - Zuma".)

2008: On who God thinks should govern South Africa in general, and Cape Town in particular:

"God expects us to rule this country because we are the only organisation which was blessed by pastors when it was formed. It is even blessed in Heaven. That is why we will rule until Jesus comes back. We should not allow anyone to govern our city (Cape Town) when we are ruling the country." (Cape Times; [5 May 2008]; "‘ANC to rule until Jesus comes back'")

So it appears that Jacob Zuma is abusing the Christian religion for his own personal gain since he is clearly not a Christian. I don't blame the CDP for being upset!

If you want to run around in leopard skins and pray to your ancestors, please do so. However, do no refer to Jesus, or God, or baptism in your speeches to the people of this nation. It is tantamount to blasphemy and make a mockery of Christianity.
 
stop reaching . Did Mr Zuma say he is a christian ??

He is abusing a religion whether he be Christian or not. As such he is a person of poor morals and no scruples.

But to add to that:

October 2006, Zuma described his philosophical outlook as follows: "I start from basic Christian principles. Christianity is part of what I am; in a way it was the foundation for all my political beliefs."

As such he is a self-confessed Christian who flaunts the laws of God and the Church.
 
So it appears that Jacob Zuma is abusing the Christian religion for his own personal gain since he is clearly not a Christian. I don't blame the CDP for being upset!

If you want to run around in leopard skins and pray to your ancestors, please do so. However, do no refer to Jesus, or God, or baptism in your speeches to the people of this nation. It is tantamount to blasphemy and make a mockery of Christianity.


You keep all this stuff on your hardrive , but then forget to show me when Zuma actually said he was a christian .
 
So it appears that Jacob Zuma is abusing the Christian religion for his own personal gain since he is clearly not a Christian. I don't blame the CDP for being upset!

If you want to run around in leopard skins and pray to your ancestors, please do so. However, do no refer to Jesus, or God, or baptism in your speeches to the people of this nation. It is tantamount to blasphemy and make a mockery of Christianity.

Looks that way.

Zuma is just a serial philanderer using his backward "ancestral traditions" to justify his behavior as acceptable.
 
He is abusing a religion whether he be Christian or not. As such he is a person of poor morals and no scruples.

But to add to that:



As such he is a self-confessed Christian who flaunts the laws of the land, God and the Church.

I don't give a shirt about his claims to be religious, but do agree that he is of poor morals and no scruples.
 
You can have christian principles , muslim principles but not be a follower of the religion . And on top of that , were in your little book of parables is polygamy abolished ?
 
I wouldnt care if Zuma married his 30th wife , what bothers me is that this deluded man insults another man`s traditions and he conveniently forgets that `our` African traditions are not the only ones which afford polygamy . The muslims are able to marry many wives but not a word from this church man . To add insult to injury he speaks in a god gave me authority sense , like he is the official word on Africa .

The African traditions are still stuck in the dark ages.
 
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