Right to die

[Alan]

I know here we have the frankly barbaric law that denies a person rights over whether to end their own life but what are the laws regarding refusing treatment and allowing an illness to take its course. Especially regarding an illness that on its own is considered curable, either completely or through chronic medication. Would the state consider that "attempted suicide" and institutionalize the patient and attempt to "force treat" them. Basically considered a "threat to yourself"

What then are the implications for people who knew and were they involved could they face charges for "assisted suicide".

 

[MickeyD]

I would not classify that as assisted suicide. If you are considered to be in control of your faculties and refuse treatment then no-one can force you to undergo treatment. Your family could intervene via court proceedings but rarely do.

It would be illegal if you were given medication that would cause you to pass away.

My dad, knowing that his cancer was too far spread, refused chemo, signed all the necessary waivers and booked himself out of hospital.



PS. Please don't.

 

[Alan]

So there is nothing specific in law then. Only route is mental illness.

 

[spiderz]

Can't you based on religious believes refuse treatment?

Chemo is sometimes worse than the cancer they are trying to treat.

 

[Peon]

..... Would the state consider that "attempted suicide" and institutionalize the patient and attempt to "force treat" them.....

Wouldnt happen, already tried here. Similar action didnt end well.

MickeyD, I salute your Dad. I wont give those medical aid companies or dr's a single cent either. They fcsk you over while you alive anyway.

 

[guest2013-1]

I think we, as a society, has regressed quite a bit when you're not in control of your own life (or death) in this case. Some might argue it's selfish for the person to choose this, but I think it's more selfish of others forcing them to live.

There was recently a story about twin brothers who chose to die with assisted suicide. Both were born deaf, and in their 40's, was diagnosed and told they were going to go blind as well. They chose to die together (lived together all their lives as well) instead of going blind as well.

With the limitations we have on choice, you'd think that something as fundamental as choosing to live or die would be in your own hands, not some government or family member's

 

[Alan]

, I wont give those medical aid companies or dr's a single cent either. They fcsk you over while you alive anyway.

So true. If you want to get into a profession without accountability where youcan charge exorbitant fees for services not delivered become a politician or doctor.

If you took your car to mechanic and all he did was walk around the vehicle and kick a tyre, maybe if youre lucky run the engine over for a minute, shrugged and said" dunno that will be R800". He would be out of business in no time. Suppose if all mechanics were like doctors he wouldnt be. By all I mean only the 19 ive seen the last few months.....

Just seems crazy the state will allow you to die slowly and painfully naturally but not allow you to end it on your own terms.The end result is the same.

 

[_Hecate_]

I personally would deny treatment if diagnosed with cancer. I would not want to go through chemo therapy and I think euthanasia should be legal regardless if you are sick or not. It should be your choice to die. At least this way if you dont want to live anymore you can die without pain or having your family find you after you killed yourself.

 

[evovil]

There was recently a story about twin brothers who chose to die with assisted suicide. Both were born deaf, and in their 40's, was diagnosed and told they were going to go blind as well. They chose to die together (lived together all their lives as well) instead of going blind as well.

That was in Belgium where euthanasia is legal

 

[Waaib]

My dad, knowing that his cancer was too far spread, refused chemo, signed all the necessary waivers and booked himself out of hospital.

I personally would deny treatment if diagnosed with cancer. I would not want to go through chemo therapy and I think euthanasia should be legal regardless if you are sick or not.

I agree with both above scenario's but they both describe going home to wait out the inevitable.

I think people should be allowed to decide to end their life sooner rather than wait till the end. If the end is inevitable then why prolong it and go through all the suffering?

 

[Helghast]

I agree with both above scenario's but they both describe going home to wait out the inevitable.

I think people should be allowed to decide to end their life sooner rather than wait till the end. If the end is inevitable then why prolong it and go through all the suffering?

This, if someone wants to die now they should be allowed to die now and have the options available to them.

 

[guest2013-1]

That was in Belgium where euthanasia is legal

That's my whole point. Why should someone/government tell me I can't decide for myself?

Anyway, had the idea a while ago, insurance that pays out if you are found to have a disease that can't be cured. Would afford you to be able to do all the things you want before you die without worrying about money

 

[Singal]

That's my whole point. Why should someone/government tell me I can't decide for myself?

Anyway, had the idea a while ago, insurance that pays out if you are found to have a disease that can't be cured. Would afford you to be able to do all the things you want before you die without worrying about money

Are you talking about dreaded disease cover?