RIP Charlie Kirk

Again, you made the statement and I asked you to be specific about what you're referring to.

Nope. You said this earlier:

Both sides push restrictions, but in different ways. Democrats push for stricter moderation to curb harm, usually by pressing platforms to enforce their own Terms of Service more consistently. Republicans try to strong-arm platforms into protecting their own voices - the latter is imho probably worse.

But even earlier on this thread and in this context the discussion included examples of liberals celebrating the death and even in some cases wishing the death of Kirk's children and other conservatives. You jumped in here all knowing and you posted the above. It's not my place to educate you. You're ignorant and I'm not here to correct your ignorance. So be a mensch, do your own research, stuff pertaining to this has appeared in this thread already and is available online.

And you can also add people like the liberal influencer Destiny to this as well.


Again, such is not acceptable however I don't condemn the left because of a small minority of views. Again, how many is many? Or are you happy just generalizing?

Who is condemning the left? Where did I say I condemned the left? And why do you say it's a minority view? How do you know it's a minority view? What was abnormal about the decent people who made these social media posts or threw parties celebrating Kirk's death? What is your evidence that this is a small minority view? Again I'm repeating myself. The people who made these posts and later lost their jobs in many cases, were nice people, they had liberal views but they were not convicts from prison or gangsters but teachers, doctors, ER nurses, clean college kids, DC comic book writers, college professors, etc. Not scumbags. And again, most people don't make Tiktoks, but these people did and so it's reasonable to assume that there may be more people who are just not Tiktokers who share these views. After all there was nothing about these people to imply they are psychopaths. They claimed to be empathetic and in some cases said that Kirk was a bad guy for his views. Obviously they know what empathy or sympathy is. Yet....

So why do you say it's a minority view? How do you know it's a minority view if you don't even know what I'm talking about above. You see how dodgy that is? You probably don't.

Given that these are people educated in left leaning circles, it follows that left leaning education makes them so. Dehumanisation of people by left wing media and some academia also drive this. You yourself brought up Goebbels. Why bring up Goebbels a minister of propaganda of one of the worst murderous regimes of the 20th century, together with Stalin and Hirohito, a man who murdered his own little children rather then let them go into captivity and later release. What could this republican MAGA man have said to turn him into Goebbels? And which hero and saviour of children wouldn't celebrate if Goebbels wasn't given justice?

Come on man.

He started signing executive orders from day 1 then too. Last I checked and according to Trump himself, he built the wall and it was the most secure border ever.

Oh FFS. Ok I'm not discussing this because it's like hitting the wall with one's head.
 
The internet has allowed these guys to crawl out:

Stewart Peters is an American alt-right internet personality. He is known for promoting COVID-19 misinformation and conspiracy theories, homophobia and transphobia, as well as antisemitic, white supremacist beliefs such as holocaust denial.

In February 2023, following the Ohio train derailment, a tweet by Peters claiming that "journalists covering the story have been arrested" and dead fish and cattle were being found "as far as 100 miles away from the site" went viral, attracting about half a million likes. Only one journalist had been arrested.

In the summer of 2023, Peters claimed that the wildfires in Canada and the ones in Hawaii were the result of attacks by orbital energy weapon platforms, similarly to Marjorie Taylor Greene's statement about "Jewish space lasers". Experts have explained why this statement by Peters is clearly incorrect.

Peters has called for the execution of Hunter Biden, Anthony Fauci, Catholic Charities workers, Taylor Swift, and Travis Kelce for reasons ranging from Kelce promoting COVID-19 vaccines and the Catholic Charities workers aiding migrants to Biden being a "presidential failson" and Swift promoting "witchcraft". According to Peters' executive producer, Lauren Witzke, "It's not a Stew Peters rally unless we're calling for executions.

Peters is identified as the communications director of a militia movement headed by one Edward Lang, who is serving a prison sentence for assaulting a police officer during the January 6 United States Capitol attack. The North American Patriot and Liberty Militia was organized in 2024 in order to be ready to take action during the 2024 United States presidential election. The same year, he called on his supporters to start gathering books they dislike from public libraries in anticipation of a book burning event he plans to organize.

What is your personal view of the footage shown?
 
Nope. You said this earlier:

But even earlier on this thread and in this context the discussion included examples of liberals celebrating the death and even in some cases wishing the death of Kirk's children and other conservatives. You jumped in here all knowing and you posted the above. It's not my place to educate you. You're ignorant and I'm not here to correct your ignorance. So be a mensch, do your own research, stuff pertaining to this has appeared in this thread already and is available online.

And you can also add people like the liberal influencer Destiny to this as well.

Who is condemning the left? Where did I say I condemned the left? And why do you say it's a minority view? How do you know it's a minority view? What was abnormal about the decent people who made these social media posts or threw parties celebrating Kirk's death? What is your evidence that this is a small minority view? Again I'm repeating myself. The people who made these posts and later lost their jobs in many cases, were nice people, they had liberal views but they were not convicts from prison or gangsters but teachers, doctors, ER nurses, clean college kids, DC comic book writers, college professors, etc. Not scumbags. And again, most people don't make Tiktoks, but these people did and so it's reasonable to assume that there may be more people who are just not Tiktokers who share these views. After all there was nothing about these people to imply they are psychopaths. They claimed to be empathetic and in some cases said that Kirk was a bad guy for his views. Obviously they know what empathy or sympathy is. Yet....

So why do you say it's a minority view? How do you know it's a minority view if you don't even know what I'm talking about above. You see how dodgy that is? You probably don't.

Given that these are people educated in left leaning circles, it follows that left leaning education makes them so. Dehumanisation of people by left wing media and some academia also drive this. You yourself brought up Goebbels. Why bring up Goebbels a minister of propaganda of one of the worst murderous regimes of the 20th century, together with Stalin and Hirohito, a man who murdered his own little children rather then let them go into captivity and later release. What could this republican MAGA man have said to turn him into Goebbels? And which hero and saviour of children wouldn't celebrate if Goebbels wasn't given justice?

Come on man.

Oh FFS. Ok I'm not discussing this because it's like hitting the wall with one's head.
I'll leave you to your non-specificity and generalizations. Clearly you didn't actually listen to what Miller said at Kirks funeral and are unable to comprehend why comparisons have been drawn.
 
I'll leave you to your non-specificity and generalizations. Clearly you didn't actually listen to what Miller said at Kirks funeral and are unable to comprehend why comparisons have been drawn.

LOL, if you make an uniformed claim, I will call you out on it. I did. If you don't know, then we can assume your comments are made out of ignorance and are of no value. They're waffle.

Clearly you don't know who Goebbels was or what Goebbels did. I can't fix your ignorance and it appears your intellectual dishonesty. Sorry bud, but Goebbels didn't merely say a few words, he was a minister in one of the worst murderous regimes in modern history and he put his own children to death (again, you should know this, but maybe you do, I have no idea how much history you even know).

You can also add Hassan Piker to this as well and his appearance on ABC. People who are on the left.

Anyway for onlookers, we have here more dehumanisation. A MAGA guy is Goebbels because he said some mean words. He is the same as a a guy who was to replace Hitler after Hitler's death, a man who murdered his own children. This is how dehumanisation works. This then makes weirdos out there kill people because intellectuals tell them that the opposition is Nazi or Goebbels.
 

There's so many conspiracies going on at the same time, this is now a new one for me.

1. There's the official FBI story.

2. Shot was from behind.

3. Shot was from the right by the balcony.

4. Shot came from the front from the guy at the barricade with a palm pistol.

5. Shot came from the right, the person just opposite from one of his body guards.

6. Charlie Kirk wasn't really shot, it was a hologram/ AI generated body of him.

7. He was shot with a different calibre, for example a .556 / .223REM etc, and the rifle and assassin is just a "story", and not the real gun or shooter.

8. The new one, his "Team" or probably not knowingly took him out, or not knowingly took him out with a rigged microphone device.
 
There's so many conspiracies going on at the same time, this is now a new one for me.

1. There's the official FBI story.

2. Shot was from behind.

3. Shot was from the right by the balcony.

4. Shot came from the front from the guy at the barricade with a palm pistol.

5. Shot came from the right, the person just opposite from one of his body guards.

6. Charlie Kirk wasn't really shot, it was a hologram/ AI generated body of him.

7. He was shot with a different calibre, for example a .556 / .223REM etc, and the rifle and assassin is just a "story", and not the real gun or shooter.

8. The new one, his "Team" or probably not knowingly took him out, or not knowingly took him out with a rigged microphone device.
All while the grainiest photos and most Fed-looking lone-nut theory is lapped up.

Remember the goal is to shutdown free speech.

Speculation is fine if it's not backed/decreed by legalized force.

Given the abuses perpetrated in the name of good medicine from 2020, I think it's a case of if you aren't speculating by now, you're probably part of the problem.
 
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Yeah sure. All these conspiracy theories.
If real professionals decided they want to take him out, they would not chose to do it at an public event with hundreds of cameras around. And then they must hire a fall guy and also brainwash his parents and everyone that knew him.
Carlie was not a President. I am sure he did not move with bodyguards everywhere. Professionals wold have taken him out when he was going out for dinner or to the grocery store
 
Yeah sure. All these conspiracy theories.
If real professionals decided they want to take him out, they would not chose to do it at an public event with hundreds of cameras around. And then they must hire a fall guy and also brainwash his parents and everyone that knew him.
Carlie was not a President. I am sure he did not move with bodyguards everywhere. Professionals wold have taken him out when he was going out for dinner or to the grocery store
Except whipping up the Right and the Left against each other is the life-blood of the parasite.
 
All while the grainiest photos and most Fed-looking lone-nut theory is lapped up.

Remember the goal is to shutdown free speech.

Speculation is fine if it's not backed/decreed by legalized force.

Given the abuses perpetrated in the name of good medicine from 2020, I think it's a case of if you aren't speculating by now, you're probably part of the problem.

Let's see what Tyler Robinson says on the 29th of September on his 2nd virtual court appearance 🤷‍♂️
 
Ha ha....

Let me guess the fact you have a family history in govt Interventionism has no bearing whatsoever on your comments....

Family history in government interventionism.

Yep my father almost had his jaw broken in the late 70s because the militia (in communist countries there was no police, only the militia) mistook him for a student protester. We never protested or joined any partisan groups or student committees. The motto was always, when they are beating people up, run the other way. When my grandfather wanted to go to the forest to fight the Wehrmacht his mother beat the sh-t out of him and he never went. Hence he survived. Hence here I am. My paternal grandfather was not as lucky. He was tortured to death in a prison on a trumped up charge of carrying food across a border. A border which sprung up overnight.
 
Family history in government interventionism.

Yep my father almost had his jaw broken in the late 70s because the militia (in communist countries there was no police, only the militia) mistook him for a student protester. We never protested or joined any partisan groups or student committees. The motto was always, when they are beating people up, run the other way. When my grandfather wanted to go to the forest to fight the Wehrmacht his mother beat the sh-t out of him and he never went. Hence he survived. Hence here I am. My paternal grandfather was not as lucky. He was tortured to death in a prison on a trumped up charge of carrying food across a border. A border which sprung up overnight.
In other words, govt can do no wrong.
 
In other words, govt can do no wrong.

Yes in fact the German occupiers were very gentle. After them the Soviet occupiers were also No 1. Indeed, government can do no wrong. Whether the KriPo or the GRU, they are all good guys. You are the man.
 
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