mSATA still maxes out at 560MB/sec. For most people that's enough. The perceived difference between mechanical SATA and SSD mSATA or SATA is huge. These huge numbers you see for Gen 4 and Gen 5 NVME are not perceived when you either use them professionally for swap or asset storage or when you copy across 100s of GBs of data. Those are not things most people regularly do. And these SSDs get very hot. I have a Samsung (Gen4) 990 Pro and even just idling it gets warm. My point was that all these devices are SSDs. People call the older SSDs (SATA) SSDs and the newer SSDs, NVME.
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mSATA still maxes out at 560MB/sec. For most people that's enough. The perceived difference between mechanical SATA and SSD mSATA or SATA is huge. These huge numbers you see for Gen 4 and Gen 5 NVME are not perceived when you either use them professionally for swap or asset storage or when you copy across 100s of GBs of data. Those are not things most people regularly do. And these SSDs get very hot. I have a Samsung (Gen4) 990 Pro and even just idling it gets warm. My point was that all these devices are SSDs. People call the older SSDs (SATA) SSDs and the newer SSDs, NVME.
SCSI connected HDDs were very fast back in the day. But not for random access. It was all about sequential read/write. SSD gives you much faster random access. And of course we all forget how cool SSDs were in laptops when they came out. You could go on a trampoline with your SSD containing laptop but not one with a mechanical HDD. Even earlier laptops would often have their HDDs heads crash when people tried to use them while walking.
NVME need not be faster (as a slow drive could be used or one which hasn't had proper TRIM performed or it could be thermo-throttled) but in general it is. Just going out by the max generational speeds here.
Rogueware 2.5" SATA NX100S
Still good - 2 years later. 1% degradation according to CrystalDiskInfo.
So in my personal experience its better than a Kingston SSD drive HP put in a laptop (under warranty repair) I owned a while back, and which died on me in less time.
Still good - 2 years later. 1% degradation according to CrystalDiskInfo.
So in my personal experience its better than a Kingston SSD drive HP put in a laptop (under warranty repair) I owned a while back, and which died on me in less time.
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Progenix Oj101
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You got lucky. Yesterday I confirmed with the distributor that Rogueware (as a brand) has come to an end due to high failure rates. The distributor confirmed failure rates as high as 70% on some SSDs.
There will be no more SSDs, RAM, monitors, peripherals etc, as high failure rates were seen across the board.
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Was Rogueware a local South African brand, ie they were just selling rebranded stuff from who knows where?
Progenix Oj101
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Correct. They started off by using decent quality ODMs, and once the brand was established as "cheap but good" they swapped to the cheapest ODMs they could find - for example, they were tried (unsuccesfully) to have a 24" monitor for R 999 RRP. This meant obtaining parts that had failed QC for other vendors, but weren't necessarily faulty off the bat. Of course, those parts had failed QC for a reason...
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Did the guys running the show not see how that choice was destined to fail?!
They may as well have just packed up everything right at that point.
Served me well so far. Maybe I got an older one? But then other value SSD brands like Crucial (which I think were also reasonably good products) have also been ended by their parent companies (Micron) which forces the consumer in SA to buy more expensive SSDs.
And as we all know the prices are insane these days, just like new DDR RAM pricing.
Is Rogueware EOL in SA? As far as I can see the main distributor of Rogueware in SA is still selling the SSD brand and its also still available on Amazon.
And as we all know the prices are insane these days, just like new DDR RAM pricing.
Is Rogueware EOL in SA? As far as I can see the main distributor of Rogueware in SA is still selling the SSD brand and its also still available on Amazon.
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Progenix Oj101
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I told them in 2022 already. It was a bait-and-switch by design. I noticed the change when an SSD I ordered had a part number other than what was on their stock feed at the time (and the format of the serial number changed), and marked all Rogueware out of stock shortly thereafter... When the RMAs started coming.
Rogueware is (was) a local distributor's house brand. If you check their stock file, you'll see they just have a few drips and drabs left over. 35 SKUs listed, of which 24 are out of stock.
14 RAM SKUs listed, all out of stock
7 SSD SKUs listed, 5 out of stock, the other 2 have a quantity below 10
0 monitors listed, all removed from the feed
2 PSUs SKUs listed, the rest have been removed, only 1 SKU in stock
The 12 remaining SKUs they list are peripherals (desks, mousepads, keyboards, monitor arms, etc), of which 7 are in stock.
The website has also been removed, and the disti has admitted the Rogueware brand was a mistake and confirmed it won't continue. I wonder if the arms will be revived under their defunct Lekkermotion brand (the predecessor to Rogueware), as they actually weren't too shabby.
chickenbeef
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I had 3 Rogueware SSDs die on me. 2x 1TBs and 1x 512GB
Last 1 was a few months back, it was used in my NUC for weekly backups.
Last 1 was a few months back, it was used in my NUC for weekly backups.
Athos
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I bought 3x Rogueware SSDs and all of them died on me. Couldn't get a refund so they sent me 3 replacements which are now sitting in a drawer in my office. I must actually just throw them out. Can't trust them.
Progenix Oj101
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Wanna "donate" them away instead of trashing them? I'd like JustJean (https://www.youtube.com/@JustJean-Yves) to do tear-downs. One is enough.