Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 2

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hexagon said:
Then don't quote them. Just a suggestion.
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I can quote anyone I like , when articles are behind paywall , I quote the twitter posts, luckily for me no one ever complained , other than the last Pbot left ,who is not on my ignore list yet.
 
Dave said:
I can see you've never served in any sort of disciplined force. Do you really think that the Marines could say "Mariupol? No General, I want to go to Lviv, ok my sweetie"?
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countless opportunities for surrender offered from basically week 1

countless testimonies now flowing from citizens stating they were held hostage and used as human shields ... you can't hide behind "orders from above" when committing war crimes, as established during the Nuremberg trials

heading in is one thing, staying throughout while witnessing and possibly participating in warcrimes is something else entirely, like I said, may they burn in hell
 
Cosmik Debris said:
I take it you're speaking from operational combat experience?
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You take it wrong.
Military and government both value intelligence gathering.
Right now you probably have no less than 2 items nearby.
Collecting data on you.

This also happens in theatre.
Might be a fitbit, might be a cellphone.
Or it could be the person on floor 5 who doesnt want a missile in them.
So they report.

Also loose lips sink ships.

Why would this even be a thing ?
Do you want to bring your "service" up or something ?
 
Defonotaltaccount said:
You take it wrong.
Military and government both value intelligence gathering.
Right now you probably have no less than 2 items nearby.
Collecting data on you.

This also happens in theatre.
Might be a fitbit, might be a cellphone.
Or it could be the person on floor 5 who doesnt want a missile in them.
So they report.

Also loose lips sink ships.
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The only comms are Starlink terminals supplied to Ukrainian forces. The Russians destroyed the cell towers. Next idea from your vast combat experience?

Defonotaltaccount said:
Why would this even be a thing ?
Do you want to bring your "service" up or something ?
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No, I want to bring up your operational service.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
The only comms are Starlink terminals supplied to Ukrainian forces. The Russians destroyed the cell towers. Next idea from your vast combat experience?



No, I want to bring up your operational service.
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So you are saying,
No cellphones exist in Ukraine ?
Starlink cant be used ?
I gave a few other ways and means.

Operational service is a silly avenue.
Plenty of intel gets gathered by non military people.
Even more of the world understands.
How it is gathered and why.
Without "operational experience".
 
Defonotaltaccount said:
So you are saying,
No cellphones exist in Ukraine ?
Starlink cant be used ?
I gave a few other ways and means.

Operational service is a silly avenue.
Plenty of intel gets gathered by non military people.
Even more of the world understands.
How it is gathered and why.
Without "operational experience".
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How many civilian intelligence gatherers are there in a war zone?

Cellphones exist in Ukraine but don't work in the war zones because the enemy can use them to co-ordinate attacks. Comms denial is essential in a war zone. The reason Ukraine has been supplied with Starlink terminals. The Russians are without proper comms:

With Russia taking out much of Ukraine’s ground-based communications infrastructure like cell towers, Internet and general mobile communication outages have become a challenge.

Satellite Internet provider Viasat also had most of its Ukraine-based satellite terminals in the country rendered inoperable following a Russian cyberattack.

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Musk activates Starlink in Ukraine

Elon Musk said his Starlink satellite service is up and running in Ukraine.
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Musk to send more Starlink terminals to Ukraine

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Elon Musk promised the country another batch of Starlink satellite terminals to help keep internet communication working.
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Elon Musk’s Starlink helps Ukraine take out Russian tanks

SpaceX’s satellite Internet service Starlink is helping the Ukrainian military destroy Russian tanks and supply trucks, The Times of London reports.
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US sends 5,000 Starlink dishes to Ukraine

Elon Musk’s SpaceX delivered 5,000 Starlink terminals to Ukraine to help public officials and service providers to communicate internally and with the rest of the world.
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Some operational experience would have provided these answers without you looking like a boy scout playing toy soldiers.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
How many civilian intelligence gatherers are there in a war zone?

Cellphones exist in Ukraine but don't work in the war zones because the enemy can use them to co-ordinate attacks. Comms denial is essential in a war zone. The reason Ukraine has been supplied with Starlink terminals. The Russians are without proper comms:

With Russia taking out much of Ukraine’s ground-based communications infrastructure like cell towers, Internet and general mobile communication outages have become a challenge.

Satellite Internet provider Viasat also had most of its Ukraine-based satellite terminals in the country rendered inoperable following a Russian cyberattack.

mybroadband.co.za

Musk activates Starlink in Ukraine

Elon Musk said his Starlink satellite service is up and running in Ukraine.
mybroadband.co.za mybroadband.co.za

mybroadband.co.za

Musk to send more Starlink terminals to Ukraine

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Elon Musk promised the country another batch of Starlink satellite terminals to help keep internet communication working.
mybroadband.co.za mybroadband.co.za

mybroadband.co.za

Elon Musk’s Starlink helps Ukraine take out Russian tanks

SpaceX’s satellite Internet service Starlink is helping the Ukrainian military destroy Russian tanks and supply trucks, The Times of London reports.
mybroadband.co.za mybroadband.co.za

mybroadband.co.za

US sends 5,000 Starlink dishes to Ukraine

Elon Musk’s SpaceX delivered 5,000 Starlink terminals to Ukraine to help public officials and service providers to communicate internally and with the rest of the world.
mybroadband.co.za mybroadband.co.za
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How many can vary wildly, hence multiple avenues used by military.
I literally pointed this out.
Reddit battalions have succumb to their own geolocated selfies.
Is starlink immune to spying ?
UAV's ?
Intelligence assets, including informants.
All work.
 
Defonotaltaccount said:
How many can vary wildly, hence multiple avenues used by military.
I literally pointed this out.
Reddit battalions have succumb to their own geolocated selfies.
Is starlink immune to spying ?
UAV's ?
Intelligence assets, including informants.
All work.
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Did you bother reading the links? How important is ComSec and comms denial to a military? How does a military communicate? Care to tell us from your vast military experience?
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
countless opportunities for surrender offered from basically week 1

countless testimonies now flowing from citizens stating they were held hostage and used as human shields ... you can't hide behind "orders from above" when committing war crimes, as established during the Nuremberg trials

heading in is one thing, staying throughout while witnessing and possibly participating in warcrimes is something else entirely, like I said, may they burn in hell
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Proof that the Marines committed war crimes?

And killing your beloved barbarian orcs isn't a war crime.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
Some real dolts but the majority were thinking people and just like all other young people anywhere. They don't want a war either.
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Also very telling how nobody seems to talk about politics. They either say they personally don't like war or they say they know nothing about it.

That's because Putin has successfully de-politicized the public to the point where they are no longer citizens of Russia, but merely inhabitants of Russia.
 
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Defonotaltaccount said:
How many can vary wildly, hence multiple avenues used by military.
I literally pointed this out.
Reddit battalions have succumb to their own geolocated selfies.
Is starlink immune to spying ?
UAV's ?
Intelligence assets, including informants.
All work.
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Isn't it past your bedtime? Have you done all your homework?
 
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