SA academic denied entry into UK

[Dave]

lols dude you have no idea. The top level corporate guys made it past more psych testing, background checks & years of careful observation than you can imagine. In terms of risk profile they're pretty much as safe as it gets short of the Dalai Lama.

LOL, really?

You might think so, but no, that's why top level board members of even global multinationals get caught for all sorts of serious crimes and addictions.

 

[TriGuN]

You don't have to be an islamic extremist out of the closet to get denied, the government just has to decide that your presence may cause controversy or friction that they don't want to have to deal with, and don't want to have to pay for in the form of lots of extra security.

They have denied visas to right wing speakers, christian preachers, cult leaders, pick up artists, elected politicians..

 

[HavocXphere]

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Nice shifting goal posts you've got there.

How about you show me a "top level board members of even global multinationals" (your quote) with "extremist Islamist tendencies or history" (also your quote)?

 

[Dave]

Nice shifting goal posts you've got there.

How about you show me a "top level board members of even global multinationals" (your quote) with "extremist Islamist tendencies or history" (also your quote)?

Why the stupid practice of deleting what you are quoting? Trying to confuse the fact you are talking crap.

"top level board members of even global multinationals" with "extremist Islamist tendencies or history"

Please quote the place where I make that statement, because you are talking crap. I have not said what you are trying to make into a single statement. Taking 2 seperate bits and trying to make them say something as a statement makes you look a twat.

Or of course, you can just apologise for being a d1ckhead of the 1st degree, and in future not try and put words into other posters posts.

 

[DA-LION-619]

Why the stupid practice of deleting what you are quoting? Trying to confuse the fact you are talking crap.



Please quote the place where I make that statement, because you are talking crap. I have not said what you are trying to make into a single statement. Taking 2 seperate bits and trying to make them say something as a statement makes you look a twat.

Or of course, you can just apologise for being a d1ckhead of the 1st degree, and in future not try and put words into other posters posts.

You know what they say about the ones that are first to throw personal attacks...

 

[HavocXphere]

I have not said what you are trying to make into a single statement.

I know you didn't say those things in a single statement - thats why they have two separate sets of quotation marks as taught in grade 9 English. I was juxtaposing two separate statements of yours to demonstrate just how incoherent your position is.

in future not try and put words into other posters posts.

Quotation marks & juxtaposition is grade 10 stuff max.

Now that we've addressed the apparent misunderstanding about quotation marks...I'd like to highlight something else:

You've accused me of "talking crap", being a "twat" and "being a ******** of the 1st degree". Meanwhile I've been polite every step of the way...yet somehow you're the one telling me I can apologise?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I posted a definition of Islamism.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism

It isn't your personal interpretation that matters, just the generally accepted one.

No one is saying he is a member of Islamic State, just that he is an Islamist, ie someone who is involved in political Islam.

I like how you left out the very next sentence...

Islamism is a controversial concept not just because it posits a political role for Islam but also because its supporters believe their Islamic views is superior to all others'

Care to show us where he does that?

And your examples mostly show him being active in Islamic and inter faith issues, and if being anti-Apartheid is somehow negative in a political sense, then lol...

 

[zippy]

You don't have to be an islamic extremist out of the closet to get denied, the government just has to decide that your presence may cause controversy or friction that they don't want to have to deal with, and don't want to have to pay for in the form of lots of extra security.

They have denied visas to right wing speakers, christian preachers, cult leaders, pick up artists, elected politicians..

They denied Dutch MP Geert Wilders entry into the UK. As a Dutch citizen he didn't even need a visa. They stopped him at Heathrow and told him to go back home.

 

[SweetFennyAdams]

The UK are mere in mitigating potential problems, as is their sovereign right as a nation.
Border Controls are exactly that, CONTROLS.

 

[Dave]

I know you didn't say those things in a single statement - thats why they have two separate sets of quotation marks as taught in grade 9 English. I was juxtaposing two separate statements of yours to demonstrate just how incoherent your position is.


Quotation marks & juxtaposition is grade 10 stuff max.

Now that we've addressed the apparent misunderstanding about quotation marks...I'd like to highlight something else:

You've accused me of "talking crap", being a "twat" and "being a ******** of the 1st degree". Meanwhile I've been polite every step of the way...yet somehow you're the one telling me I can apologise?

You wrote them into a single sentence to try and make them say something else, you are a twat who is full of crap, end of. No where were the 2 quotes a single statement, there was no mention of Islam in the statement about board members, you are just an idiot troll who is trying to make up an offensive statement to suit your agenda.

God, considering you believe in a fairy with paedophillic tendencies that supposedly tells its followers to kill anyone who doesn't believe in said fairy I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

Care to show us where he does that?

Show me where he doesn't...

 

[supersunbird]

God, considering you believe in a fairy with paedophillic tendencies that supposedly tells its followers to kill anyone who doesn't believe in said fairy I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

Now you just pulling fairy tales out of your anus...

I don't care (and haven't read) what HavocXphere said but if you are going to post made-up-in-your-head stuff, it's probably best to ignore all your points.

 

[marine1]

Good news

 

[crackersa]

You wrote them into a single sentence to try and make them say something else, you are a twat who is full of crap, end of. No where were the 2 quotes a single statement, there was no mention of Islam in the statement about board members, you are just an idiot troll who is trying to make up an offensive statement to suit your agenda.

God, considering you believe in a fairy with paedophillic tendencies that supposedly tells its followers to kill anyone who doesn't believe in said fairy I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.



Show me where he doesn't...

Ahh another ignorant bigot shows his colors on mybb.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

You wrote them into a single sentence to try and make them say something else, you are a twat who is full of crap, end of. No where were the 2 quotes a single statement, there was no mention of Islam in the statement about board members, you are just an idiot troll who is trying to make up an offensive statement to suit your agenda.

God, considering you believe in a fairy with paedophillic tendencies that supposedly tells its followers to kill anyone who doesn't believe in said fairy I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.



Show me where he doesn't...

Burden of proof etc.