SA Politics Thread Part 10 : The GNU Has Crashed

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ForceFate said:
There are less jobs and less jobs per capita in the formal sector. The past 15 years has been a bloodbath due to closures and automation. Perhaps not evident in the metros but small towns have taken a beating.
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I'd need to see the numbers to believe the less actual jobs statement though.

Less jobs per capita is easily believable and tracks with the unemployment rate growing along with the population growing.
 
Bewlen said:
Very hard to get any numbers on the table. Very questionable. What was the number of jobs created? How much money has been spent to date? Is this just a disguised vote-buying exercise? Where are the numbers?
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Job Opportunites if you please.
 
TelkomUseless said:
Love seeing your fighting the fight that ended 30+ years ago. And your #blackexcellence government steals your future while you look at the past.
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If only there was a cure for stupid. But found out something that would explain a lot and why the IQ is so low in Africa.

"Research shows that although 95% of people think they're self-aware, only 10% to 15% actually are"
 
TheChamp said:
Make a PAIA request.
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Shouldn't have to, taxpayer money is being spent in vast numbers for what seems very little return on investment.. These numbers should be highlighted. Just another Lesufi populist scheme, giving him some camera time.

As usual.
 
TheChamp said:
They are public, but you are just lazy to go look, so if you made a PAIA request someone would compile everything for you and give it to you.
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The worms will eventually come out of the woodwork, relax.
 
TheChamp said:
Would you see the worms though? I am certain you would be here moaning how difficult it is to see the worms that your taxpayers money paid for.
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Got a price: R100 000 per job.

Yes, you read that correctly: Taxpayers paid R100 000 for every "job opportunity" (short-term contracts!)

Ho. Lee. Shiiiiiiiiit....

ChatGPT:
As of June 2025, Gauteng's Nasi iSpani programme has delivered approximately 95,000 job opportunities to young people across various sectors. The programme has received substantial funding from various sources:


  • R8.4 billion allocated by the Department of Employment and Labour to train approximately 482,000 youth in specialized skills.
  • R1.1 billion from the Gauteng Provincial Government's STEEL (Skills Training and Employment for Economic Liberation) fund.
  • Additional investments from entities like Transnet, Airports Company South Africa (ACSA), and merSETA, covering areas such as solar panel training and infrastructure development.

Estimated Cost per Job:


To calculate the approximate cost per job:


  • Total Funding: R8.4 billion (Department of Employment and Labour) + R1.1 billion (Gauteng Provincial Government) = R9.5 billion
  • Jobs Delivered: Approximately 95,000

Cost per Job: R9.5 billion ÷ 95,000 ≈ R100,000


Therefore, the estimated cost per job delivered by the Nasi iSpani programme is approximately R100,000.


It's important to note that many of these positions were short-term contracts, leading to challenges in job security and continuity for participants. Additionally, the programme faced funding constraints, resulting in the termination of contracts for over 90,000 recruits in mid-2024.


Despite these challenges, the Nasi iSpani programme has been a significant effort in addressing youth unemployment in Gauteng, though its long-term impact and sustainability remain areas of concern.
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Those are some very expensive headlines your hero bought there..... just, wow
 
Bewlen said:
Got a price: R100 000 per job.

Yes, you read that correctly: Taxpayers paid R100 000 for every "job opportunity" (short-term contracts!)

Ho. Lee. Shiiiiiiiiit....

ChatGPT:



Those are some very expensive headlines your hero bought there..... just, wow
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See all the good things that can happen if you are not lazy to Google? Imagine the enlightenment in your life if you just put in 10% more effort.
 
Bewlen said:
Got a price: R100 000 per job.

Yes, you read that correctly: Taxpayers paid R100 000 for every "job opportunity" (short-term contracts!)

Ho. Lee. Shiiiiiiiiit....

ChatGPT:



Those are some very expensive headlines your hero bought there..... just, wow
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R100k for a temp job opportunity.. :ROFL:

#ANCExcellence...
 
TheChamp said:
See all the good things that can happen if you are not lazy to Google? Imagine the enlightenment in your life if you just put in 10% more effort.
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Imagine the enlightenment in all of our lives, if Pantie can stop wasting taxpayer money, and presenting them as good ANC governance.
 

Using a wide range of tools to determine the social status of citizens, as opposed to using blunt tools such as racial classification, is a much better way to overcome the legacies of the past, argues Christo van der Rheede.

President Cyril Ramaphosa’s response to a question raised in Parliament by the Patriotic Alliance and ACDP about the government’s continued use of racial classification categories raises serious questions about his commitment to the Constitution, which envisions a non-racial society based on human dignity, equality, human rights, non-racialism, non-sexism, accountability, responsiveness and transparency.

The president admitted he would like to see our country finally do away with racial classification that was introduced during apartheid. But according to him, this can only happen when the inequalities caused by the past have been effectively addressed, especially in the economy.

What a lame excuse and an insult. But more than that, it makes a mockery of our Constitution that envisions a non-racial society. Nor does it consider its impact on the black and brown majority in particular, who have been trapped in poverty, inequality and unemployment for the past 30 years.


Misuse for political patronage

The continued use of racial classification in various laws promulgated over time serves no other purpose than to misuse it for political patronage and to retain voters.

The outcome of enforcing ethnic or racial targets at the expense of expertise has had disastrous consequences at all levels of government, especially our public enterprises.

Not to mention its impact on service delivery at the municipal level, in schools, hospitals and so many other public institutions. And it is the poorest of the poor, the black and brown majority, who suffer.

Do away with racial classification, Mr President. Finish and klaar.

There are alternative ways to overcome the legacy of the past. Through the smart collection and use of data, interventions by the public and private sectors can be launched to address the socioeconomic challenges faced by specific communities.

Using a wide range of tools to determine the social status of citizens, as opposed to using blunt tools such as racial classification, is a much better way to overcome the legacies of the past. However, skills, expertise, dedication, integrity, and ability to deliver should be the crucial indicators in appointing people to critical government positions.

Doomed to fail

Returning to obsolete, divisive, and degrading racial classifications and the use of employment equity targets does nothing at all to help overcome the injustices of the past.

In fact, the past 30 years have proven that such blunt instruments do more harm than good. It’s insane to think that we’ll overcome the legacy of the past by continuing with racial classification and policies. It drives mediocrity and undermines our constitutional order.

Any society that builds a future on ethnicity or skin colour is doomed to fail. South Africa, with its unique history of apartheid, should have learned from its terrible past, but no, the president and his political party, the ANC, continue with toxic policies based on race-based targets that actually amount to quotas.

In fact, quotas are unconstitutional as a High Court found that they violate the constitutional right to equality and dignity.

The president should instruct his Cabinet ministers to go back to the drawing board and devise a new system that balances the need for redress with merit, as well as the development of mentorship and learnership programmes aimed primarily at economically and educationally disadvantaged people, regardless of their ethnicity or race.

This should be a legal obligation for all businesses rather than the enforcement of quotas. Such learnership programmes are used with great success in many businesses and these students are in high demand.

South Africa is bleeding talent that, if it had been harnessed, could have contributed greatly to helping us overcome the legacies of the past, especially in terms of the economy. Continuing on this path of racial classification undermines the dream of progress and prosperity for all.

South Africans deserve better, and it starts with appointing the best people to critical service delivery positions. Not in terms of race.

- Christo van der Rheede is the executive director of the FW de Klerk Foundation.
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