SA Politics Thread Part 10 : The GNU Has Crashed

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So why did that Action SA KZN leader celebrate the MK win if they weren't involved? As usual, Gogo knows exactly what she's talking about and you don't.

It's actually the DA loss they were celebrating, people simply don't like the DA, because it is an unlikeable party, I was also a little chuffed by their loss as you have seen, it doesn't mean I was involved in plotting their downfall.

Steenhuisen must grow some balls and put a leash on Zille, if she starts doing this, she isn't going to stop and she's going to say things that puts the party into disrepute and cause them votes.
 
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Oh? Second ward they are losing to the MK, no wonder Gogo's spectacular meltdown.


Just because AuctionSA didn't have a candidate didn't mean they didn't help the independent candidate.

Also you are great mistaken. The ward in Saldanha Bay was taken off the your beloved ANC, not the DA. Please get your facts straight next time lol.
 
Just because AuctionSA didn't have a candidate didn't mean they didn't help the independent candidate.

Also you are great mistaken. The ward in Saldanha Bay was taken off the your beloved ANC, not the DA. Please get your facts straight next time lol.
Oh? Okay then, they lost and did not accuse the DA or any other opposition party of anything, why can't the DA be grown up about this?
 
No, questioning the fairness and validity of the process is okay and catered for by the IEC, you will note they are not accusing any party of anything and their complaint is directed at the IEC, sulking and blaming other opposition parties for losing is simply childish.

Normally I'd agree it is a case of sour grapes, however, given the animosity that exists between AuctionSA and the DA right now, I wouldn't put it past AuctionSA activists to have surreptitiously helped the independent candidate.
 
Even the campaigning was wrong, there is nowhere MK speaks about the DA when it campaigns, what incompetence is this?


Err...it's actually the truth in that ward if you think about it. It was a two-horse race in 2024 and it was a two-horse race in the by-election. Nothing wrong with trying to encourage people to not vote for the minor parties. That's part of political campaigning.
 
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Err...it's actually the truth in that ward if you think about it. It was a two-horse race in 2024 and it was a two-horse race in the by-election. Nothing wrong with trying to encourage people to not vote for the minor parties. That's part of political campaigning.
No, it is exceptionally stupid, you already lead the ward, you are the Boss, other parties must be worried about you, not the other way round, MK must be the one worried about whether it is big enough to stop the DA, that campaign was them already admitting defeat from the MK even before it happened.
 
Oh? Okay then, they lost and did not accuse the DA or any other opposition party of anything, why can't the DA be grown up about this?
Was worth a dishonest try; the DA hate is as strong as Brother Herman's.
 
Squiddel finally drops the mask & shows journalists just who he really is...

After 7 years of fawning over him, it's taken being snubbed on a an absolutely meaningless 'important' visit to the Gqeberha docks for it dawn on SA Editors Forum that Ramaphosa couldn't give a stuff about the media.


Sanef condemns treatment of journos on Ramaphosa's Eastern Cape visit - TimesLive​

'The president has conspicuously avoided an engagement with the media, as he last took questions from the media in 2023'

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The South African National Editors' Forum (Sanef) has condemned the “ongoing pattern of exclusion and disrespect” towards the media by some elements in government communications.

The forum expressed its dismay after what it described as the inadequate preparations, unfair treatment and lack of professionalism displayed towards journalists during President Cyril Ramaphosa’s recent oversight visit to the Eastern Cape.

On Tuesday, members of the media were formally invited by the Presidency, through the Government Communication and Information System (GCIS), to cover Ramaphosa’s visit to the Port of Ngqura in Gqeberha.

Journalists were accredited and sent on assignment by their respective newsrooms to provide coverage of this important public event, only to be met with blatant disregard and exclusion upon arrival, said Sanef.

“In a shocking display of unfairness, only a select few television cameras were allowed to follow the president. The rest of the media cohort, which included print, online and radio journalists, was left waiting idly for more than two hours without access, information or updates,” Sanef said.

The only glimpse they had of the president was as his convoy drove past them, with no opportunity to ask questions or engage meaningfully.

Sanef said no explanations or apologies were offered “for this unacceptable treatment”.

“This is not only a failure in planning but a gross insult to the media and, by extension, the South African public. Journalists were not invited for ceremonial purposes.”

“Their presence was to ensure public transparency, accountability and proper reporting on matters of national interest. To treat them as an afterthought is to undermine their constitutional role.”

Journalists were not mere spectators but were public watchdogs tasked with holding power to account, Sanef said.

“The president has conspicuously avoided an engagement with the media, as he last took questions from the media in 2023. This is despite his public commitment to do so and repeated requests and letters to his office, with the latter requests having unashamedly gone unanswered.”

Sanef said this was not to be confused with one-on-one interviews with selected media houses that the Presidency chose to do and the fleeting “doorstop” moments at public events.

It had been a practice in this country and other countries for the head of state to regularly engage with the media.

“Ignoring, sidelining, or selectively granting access to media practitioners goes against the democratic values of fairness, equality, openness, and transparency.”

Sanef said all of Ramaphosa’s predecessors in the post-1994 era — from the late Nelson Mandela to former president Jacob Zuma — kept to this established practice.

It said the continued marginalisation of journalists, particularly by the highest office in the land, set a worrying precedent and must be discouraged. Government communication must be inclusive, transparent and professional at all times, Sanef said.

“Sanef expects an explanation from the presidency and GCIS about the Gqeberha incident. We equally request a prompt review of their media engagement protocols to ensure that this kind of poor treatment of the media does not happen again.”

 
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