SA Politics Thread Part 10 : The GNU Has Crashed

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TheChamp said:
There is no ideological problem here, the DA, was not ill treated in any way, that's what all the other parties are saying, even those outside the GNU who are not Ramaphosa's fans.

The DA decided to make a mountain out of it with the empty threats and ultimatums.
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Really? As long as the ANC treats the DA nicely they must just happily go along with the destruction of the country. Do you know what ideology means?
 
ANC protecting corrupt ministers by threatening to do the same with DA ministers.

In response to the DA’s threat to vote against the budgets of departments led by “compromised” ANC ministers, the ANC has reserved the right to do the same - that is, for departments led by DA ministers.

At an impromptu press briefing in Johannesburg, ANC spokesperson Mahlengi Bhengu said the DA was “playing games”.

She was reacting to what DA leader John Steenhuisen said when he announced the party’s withdrawal from participation in the National Dialogue.

At the time, Steenhuisen said the DA - a government of national unity partner - would withhold support for budgets of departments led by “compromised” ministers, including Thembi Simelane and Nobuhle Nkabane. Simelane is the Minister of Human Settlements and Nkabane is the Minister of Higher Education and Training.

This after the DA’s Federal Executive (FedEx) gave President Cyril Ramaphosa 48 hours to fire compromised ANC ministers in response to the axing of the DA’s Andrew Whitfield as the Deputy Minister of Trade, Industry and Competition. The party is yet to reveal who it has chosen to replace Whitfield.

The DA has since circulated a poster of “questionable” members of Ramaphosa’s Cabinet, including Deputy President Paul Mashatile, Minister in the Presidency Khumbudzo Ntshavheni, and Deputy Minister of Water and Sanitation David Mahlobo.

Bhengu said the ANC would study Steenhuisen’s statement and respond accordingly.

In the meantime, Bhengu has reacted to some of Steenhuisen’s claims and the decision to vote against departmental budgets.

“I suppose they do reserve that right. It happens all the time in Parliament. It is an attempt to disrupt the workings of the government of national unity. We note that, but the ANC caucus also reserves the right, should it require to do so, not to support the budget votes where the president has appointed DA ministers. But because we are interested in the success of our country, it is important for us to come into a conversation,” Bhengu said.

READ | Pleas for lighter Whitfield sanction fell on deaf ears, says Steenhuisen

She said the ball was in the DA’s court to “decide whether they are part of the government of national unity or a quasi-opposition party within the executive based just on what we’ve just learned”.

She added that a meeting of the ANC national working committee (NWC) would deliberate the development and a meeting of the national executive committee (NEC) would would do the same at its meeting in mid-July.

“I’m sure we will provide a comprehensive response and analysis of what this means for the government of national unity, for the work we are doing in Parliament, and for our strive to ensure that there’s cohesion in society by getting these parties to work together in line with the adopted statement of intent,” Bhengu said.

She added that the Constitution and the statement of intent did not suggest that Ramaphosa must co-govern with Steenhuisen.

“We continue to remind the DA we are not in a coalition with [them]. We are in a government of national unity that is led by the African National Congress. It is the ANC that invited all political parties that made it to Parliament to join the ANC in constituting a government for the sake of national unity and the people of South Africa,” Bhengu said.

She also defended the National Dialogue, after Steenhuisen said the DA would embark on a campaign to convince other sectors of society to withdraw from participating.

“There are certain things that have got to be rebutted, one of which is an indication that the National Dialogue is just but one event in the history of South Africa and that it is unlikely to yield consensus or what we call social impact.

“South Africa is well alive and is accustomed to a culture of dialogue and engagement,” Bhengu said, adding that the National Dialogue would be a success.
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ANC reserves right to withhold support for DA ministers’ budgets amid GNU tension | News24

In response to the DA’s threat to vote against the budgets of departments led by “compromised” ANC ministers, the ANC has reserved the right to do the same - that is, for departments led by DA ministers.
www.news24.com www.news24.com

They need to just leave instead of waiting for the ANC to fire them. This Mexican stand-off drags them down to the ANC's level, the longer they keep it going...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
ANC protecting corrupt ministers by threatening to do the same with DA ministers.


www.news24.com

ANC reserves right to withhold support for DA ministers’ budgets amid GNU tension | News24

In response to the DA’s threat to vote against the budgets of departments led by “compromised” ANC ministers, the ANC has reserved the right to do the same - that is, for departments led by DA ministers.
www.news24.com www.news24.com

They need to just leave instead of waiting for the ANC to fire them. This Mexican stand-off drags them down to the ANC's level, the longer they keep it going...
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Exactly what I expected from the ANC to be honest.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
They need to just leave instead of waiting for the ANC to fire them. This Mexican stand-off drags them down to the ANC's level, the longer they keep it going...
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No, don't leave, but do SOMETHING

table that motion of no confidence in CR and do it now, no more empty threats, just do it!

ANC will instantly fire them, and play into their hand
 
TheChamp said:
What is the big win in being fired?
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Riddle me this oh Wise One. If The Great Chihuahua goes to the ex Mrs Beaumont and says "I resigned" vs "I got fired". Which option still sees him retaining access to her rather generous cake servings of which he is rather fond?
 
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