SA Politics Thread Part 12

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To be fair Eskom is not showing improvement because they improved.
They are only working now because of all the closures of big business esp smelters. SA consumption is worse than ever. Atm even lower than covid years. The real reason why we don't have load shedding
 
TheChamp said:
Okay, wake me up when it happens.
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Still moving through process.
I think sa has now lost a lot of valuable support that was slowing it down

The U.S. has seen recent legislative moves, notably the U.S.-South Africa Bilateral Relations Review Act of 2025 (H.R. 2633), to review and potentially sanction South African officials due to Pretoria's growing ties with U.S. adversaries like Russia and China, its support for Hamas, and its genocide case against Israel at the ICJ. Introduced by Rep. Ronny Jackson and advanced by the House Foreign Affairs Committee, this bill mandates a review and identifies officials for sanctions, signaling U.S. concern over South Africa's drift from U.S. foreign policy interests, though it requires full Congressional approval to become law.
Key Aspects of the Proposed Legislation:
  • Name: U.S.-South Africa Bilateral Relations Review Act of 2025 (H.R. 2633).
  • Purpose: To compel a comprehensive review of U.S.-South Africa relations and authorize sanctions against officials linked to corruption, human rights abuses, or actions undermining U.S. interests.
  • Reasons Cited:
    • South Africa's joint naval exercises with Russia and China.
    • Hosting Russian military assets and sanctioned entities.
    • Pursuing the ICJ case against Israel.
    • Hosting Hamas and ambiguous stances on the conflict.
    • Antisemitic remarks by officials and appointments like Ambassador Ebrahim Rasool.
    • Increased engagement with Iran.
  • Status: Passed the House Foreign Affairs Committee, but needs approval from the full House and Senate to become law.
 
TheChamp said:
Those sanctions are taking way longer than expected, I wonder what's the delay all about it?
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The US is waiting for you to use up all your stones. The rest of us hard working tax payers who deeply love this country, who see its potential for greatness and don't want bad things to happen, are hoping that you'll stop throwing and start listening. We know you won't though.

And you can yawn and brush it off and act blase all you want, but if the hammer does come down on SA, it's all on you and the party you serve. That responsibility you cannot dodge.
 
Solarion said:
The US is waiting for you to use up all your stones. The rest of us hard working tax payers who deeply love this country, who see its potential for greatness and don't want bad things to happen, are hoping that you'll stop throwing and start listening. We know you won't though.

And you can yawn and brush it off and act blase all you want, but if the hammer does come down on SA, it's all on you and the party you serve. That responsibility you cannot dodge.
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Put this so elequently

Same process we use at work when someone is f up enough you want to get rid of them.
Give them rope to hang themselves so there is no option of recourse.

In this case usa is giving time for the stupid to be really f stupid. The anc, their offshoots and followers are not failing to provide the stupid
 
ToxicBunny said:
Any comments on the news piece? Your opinion on it?
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My 5c is a quote from Brian Cantrill

Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphising Larry Ellison. You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' -- lawnmower doesn't give a **** about you, lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don't fall into that trap about Oracle.
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