SA set for farm expropriations

JStrike said:
BTTB : Well written. And you are right. (One of my fathers farms was expropriated by the previous government. It still lies vacent)
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Thanks.

Do you, like me often wonder what may have happened had the State not entered into your families life and taken that land?
 
BTTB : Quite often. But I am happy with my life. If the state had not entered my families life, it may well have been different. And not neccesarily for the better
 
What we need are collectives and a kibbutz type system from the land given to the disenfranchised, communal farms, in China up until the open economic policy , all produce from all farms was taken by the government and distributed to areas with shortages, nowadays, they still do that , except that any extra above the required quota belongs to the farmers to sell or trade, and that way everybody shares in the profits generated by the collective, simple and easy. The harder you work the more belongs to you.
 
JStrike said:
There is nothing wrong with expropriations. Every country does it
Hopefully the government has set up the correct supporting policies, as a lot of education, etc will be needed for this to work. Current examples in SA have had mixed success, but the success stories have always been when these supporting structures have been in place
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What is their to worry about look how wonderful the government set up the AA policies etc. Farming will only be getting better and if we all die of mass starvation we can always blame the previous owners of the farms.
 
craigsa said:
This gvt is exactly the same as the Zim gvt
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Have you been to zimbabwe recently? go there boet, ull notice you kiss the ground when u come back into ZA

Word.
 
@BTTB. Well said.

It will be a very sad day if this comes to pass. The beginning of the end...(or of the start of a second Zimbabwe)
 
DigitalSoldier said:
For sure zuma made it so clear how he hates our western lifestyle.
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:D Well at least if he does not get loose on thése charges against him (High probability he could as he is in line for the next presidency:eek: ) he will return to eat his favorite meals "pap en afval of derms" Not that there is anything wrong with it I love it for one . My wife wont cook it tho!:D
 
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hj2k_x said:
@BTTB. Well said.

It will be a very sad day if this comes to pass. The beginning of the end...(or of the start of a second Zimbabwe)
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Indeed.

Lets not even think along those lines.
I sincerely hope we can just get on and be happy.
 
BTTB said:
Indeed.

Lets not even think along those lines.
I sincerely hope we can just get on and be happy.
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Hell no,i say to the anc,go for it china don't be a bunch of sissies,take the farms,jaag die boere weg,moer die hele lot in die tronk.But i will tell you this "boeta`s,you will pray for the despised farmers to come back.:)
 
They pay very well for these farms, some of them have gone for far more than what they were actually worth.
 
Digital Soldier said:
Were there a story a while back about the government giving farmers back their land in Limpopo ?
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No not given back,this one farm was bought by the gvt for 1.4mil,the new"owners" broke/carried away or just simply f$cked up everything, they could not make the farm work(even thou the farm was very productive when they got it) they then sold it to a white guy for a R100,000.00 to pay their electricity bill of (i think 32 grand)
 
Oh ok isnt that enough evidence for the government that with our current situation these people are not capable of running a farm and should rather wait for a later generation that got the education to try and run it.
 
mooK said:
They pay very well for these farms, some of them have gone for far more than what they were actually worth.
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That is not what I read, but then again I did not see all the details, Have you got proof of this, link information? Why are these farmers holding out then!
 
DigitalSoldier said:
Oh ok isnt that enough evidence for the government that with our current situation these people are not capable of running a farm and should rather wait for a later generation that got the education to try and run it.
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Soldier it is not only the education. It takes a special breed (Not race) of person to be a farmer, The long hours, hard work, Weather and crop knowledge as well as feel! Also management skills and the love of farming. Therefore there have always been a low volume of farmers per ca-pita, therefore huge farms and infrastructure! It takes quiet a long time to have success. That's why the only real expropriations that were successful was where the original farmer went in business with the new owners and production did not suffer! So that should be the answer too the problem!
 
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I don't have any link stuff, I just spoke to my dad earlier about it and he gave me his opinion, he's in conveyancy so he may have inside info. I'll find out more in future.
 
mooK said:
I don't have any link stuff, I just spoke to my dad earlier about it and he gave me his opinion, he's in conveyancy so he may have inside info. I'll find out more in future.
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Off topic!

Mmmm, Thus this mean Dad would know? I have a small open piece at back of property! It was going to be used as Road so belongs to department of road afairs, (that was in the old days! Now I do nor know?). We can now purchase it from the municipality! It will enlarge my property by 1/3.

Would he know:
how best to handle it, 99 Year lease, is it possible? or purchase direct?
Why is their such a high cost to change "cart and transport"
Apparently it must be rezoned from Road affairs and then added to my property, Any other way it could be handled!
Can it be kept as a sepperate property, for sake of saving costs if any?
What would be a reasonable cost per meter^2 for something like this.

Back to topic!
 
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I agree with u pupa that it takes a special "breed" but I also heard some black people talk and a lot of them say they dont really care about the land all they want is food and shelter and the government aint helping so with land reform they can get their own food and shelter
 
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