SA set for lower telecoms rates

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http://www.sundaytimes.co.za/zones/sundaytimesNEW/business/business1136378098.aspx
While 2005 saw the deregulation and the licensing of the second national operator (SNO), South African telecommunications users are set to experience tariff reductions as a result of regulatory changes and increased competition for fixed-line, mobile and data operators in 2006.

The South Africa Foundation believes that consumers' phone bills may fall by up to 30%, but this would require steps such as the adoption of the per-second billing by fixed-line monopoly Telkom (TKG), cost-based pricing by Vodacom and MTN Group (MTN) as well as the regulation of costs of Internet traffic on undersea cables.
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In a surprise move, Communications Minister Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri said VANS providers - such as MTN Network Solutions and others - were required to obtain telecommunications facilities from the fixed-line licencees "until a certain (future) date". The minister's statement dashed hopes that the so- called big bang of 2005 entailed self-provision by the VANS market.
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Hey? I thought they were allowed to self-provision?
 
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!! Funny one tell me another one . . . .

*Just call me a pessimist*
 
Adoption of per second billing? How about just stop ripping people off.
 
Prices come down?

In a surprise move, Communications Minister Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri said VANS providers - such as MTN Network Solutions and others - were required to obtain telecommunications facilities from the fixed-line licencees "until a certain (future) date". The minister's statement dashed hopes that the so- called big bang of 2005 entailed self-provision by the VANS market.
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The article is about competition and prices coming down... but then quotes the above... I am missing something here...

How are prices going to come down? About the fixed line licencees mentioned above... which ones can provide telecommunications facilities since the SNO has to lease from Telkom... guess that just leaves the government's cash cow... Telkom will be killing the market at the expense of all other telecoms operators and of course us. EVEN MORE PROFIT FOR TELKOM... definately no price decreases in the pipeline as far as I can see.
 
No freaking commitment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
This line: "In a surprise move, Communications Minister Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri said.." just made me lol. Speed of the chicken, strength of the tortoise - yes folks, it's Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri!
 
EdRobinson said:
The article is about competition and prices coming down... but then quotes the above... I am missing something here...

How are prices going to come down? About the fixed line licencees mentioned above... which ones can provide telecommunications facilities since the SNO has to lease from Telkom... guess that just leaves the government's cash cow... Telkom will be killing the market at the expense of all other telecoms operators and of course us. EVEN MORE PROFIT FOR TELKOM... definately no price decreases in the pipeline as far as I can see.
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They are not going to have to hitch off telkoms lines for ever. They are not even leasing all off telkoms lines anyway.

Its competition, prices will come down. Otherwise how will the SNO make any impact and gain any customers.
 
deregulation and legislation will bring prices down not, competition.

we already have one duopoly, we're just getting ready for the next.

and "TATA" having the largest stake in the SNO wont be willing to have a price war with TKG or even just lower prices for that matter, just look at their car industry. their car is said to be overpriced in our country, even if its the cheapest thing on wheels u can buy here, its still overpriced if u compare it to what they're sold for overseas, at the end of the day its profit before responsibility to the community.
 
rsachoc said:
Hey? I thought they were allowed to self-provision?
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Don't we all wish, ISP's would have spent the 20 - 50k or so to have thier own fiber layed. We whould have AWSOME connectivity solutions.
 
Hmmm misread the statement.

From what I understand, the cellular providers are allowed to self-provision, just not VANS providers
 
Somebody's gonna get capped where the sun doesn't shine... :mad:

Why are the Somalians so successful and we plodding along? We're going to be the laughing stock of Africa pretty soon... and the 2010 World Cup is set to be a disaster... Once we led the African continent, next we'll be tagging along...

Maybe we should consider moving to Somalia until some time after 2010...
 
Something is seriously wrong in SA. We are being led by the 'blind'. Dr Ivy M-C, what is she a doctor of? Actually I don't care... I'm calling for a vote of no confidance for icasa/doc.
 
Unless icasa finally pushes regulations vs adsl, i don't see ANY price reduction in wrt data/adsl.. heck since sno is forced to use Telkom equip for last mile/wireless and since they will need bandwidth from 'somewhere' i think prices will stay same. mebbe march-april sign ups slow and rental drops again slightly. So far satellite link or cable only ways and cable is Telkom/saix only / cost controlled.

Local calls should be alot more cheaper, per sec does not help, it just means people will rap like shaka(that tall black dude who raps fast) or snow(the white version ;) haha) like we do on cell phones. Perhaps interconnect fee's will be regulated better this year.

sms is big why ? cause people can't afford to talk, not cause its teh awesome, landline sms is just too funny though, i just use free sms websites and cell to recieve :P except if on the move

speaking of which i hope voip numbers can interconnect sooooooooooon..(this is a pipe dream i know it)

Cell number swops might help cell rates but then again the all just follow one another wrt cost, icasa i hope can bite then again they will likely just hold further talks :P

BTW 1 month for Mbeki's promise to fail, i doubt any change can be expected before he gives another promsing speach.. Time to ask him what happend and who's gonna get nailed for it.
 
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blah blah blah.the only way to get a decent broadband line in this country is to emigrate. thats the way it is and thats the way its gonna stay.

I think i might sue the guavamint for infringing upon my constitutional right to affordable communications. maybe if they get like 200 000 ppl all suing them for the same thing, ivy might wake up long enough to realise. hau. i must not be doing as well as i thought.

thats the main problem, as long as ivy has a comfy place toi have a nap, she really couldnt care about anything else.
 
Zimbabwe has Mad Bob destroying their country, with total disregard for the people. We have Poison Ivy doing the same thing here. Eish Ivy! isn't it time for your retirement. Think about it this way Ivy.... you'll probably be more useful at home then you are sitting in your office 'looking' busy.
 
Vice said:
Dr Ivy M-C, what is she a doctor of?
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Honorary doctorate obtained from the University of Seequia for her diligent efforts in practical sleep therapy. She does it daily for 22 hours. What a supreme effort!
 
The only suprise move Poison Ivy is capable of would be if she wakes up 5 minutes early for lunch
 
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