MONEYWEB: Charles, let's just recap on all of this. Saambou was put into curatorship first in 2002. What did the shareholders get back?
CHARLES EDWARDS: I'm not the right...
MONEYWEB: Did they get anything back?
CHARLES EDWARDS: Well they did get something back, but I'm not the right guy to give you feedback on that. What I would like to, maybe, if you will allow me, is just give you this one positive thing that came out of the court case. I would so have loved the old colleagues of Saambou to have been there, to have joined us on that day that the curator was in the court and under oath explained to the court that, even a month after curatorship, and after he had put the organisation through a stress test and wrote off all the bad debts that he could think of, even after that process, Saambou was still solvent to the tune of R713m. And, you know, I think that is testimony to the quality of assets that we had in the place and the quality organisation that Saambou always had been. So I just wanted to - you know, I think it's something that the Saambou people can treasure and take with them on the road going forward.