SAIX/IS Peering

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I'm not sure I understand this...

http://www.finance24.com/Finance/Companies/0,,1518-24_1678527,00.html

The increased traffic on the SAIX/IS peering link is due to IS now re-selling ADSL access (bought from SAIX/Telkom).

Now SAIX want IS to pay full rate for extra peering connectivity because the IS ADSL traffic "is not part of the peering agreement"

So IS pays SAIX for the ADSL access and must now pay SAIX more to peer the traffic back to them.

WTF?????
 
I think the obvious answer to this question is VoIP. TelSCUM does not care that its own users are getting bad service to IS hosted sites... they are only interested in keeping them on their voice networks. Most users will think Skype or similiar is not working as it should, and blame the technology, because they perceive some of their internet access as fast.
 
TheCynick said:
I'm not sure I understand this
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You got pretty close too it, just left out a ton of politics with it. There is far more backdoor action and under the table deals and stories on this one than you could ever believe.
 
The last article on peering was that they usually upgrade the peering link (Sharing costs 50/50, where nobody pays for the traffic throughput after the upgrade), and then all is cool.

Now Teklom refuse to upgrade the link along those lines, Teklom will only upgrade the link by forcing IS to pay for the traffic utilisation on the upgraded link.

If IS does not pay for the traffic, then the link will not be upgraded.

IS claim that the extra traffic is from their reselling of SAIX ADSL accounts.

So, now IS is putting up a fuss to try to pressure teklom into doing things the old way, using the ADSL traffic as the argument point. Well, I cannot purchase and ADSL account from IS - can you ?

That's why teklom is telling them to bugger off.

LOL.
 
Yes I can? But they do not sell to retail clients directly.
 
Telkom is mad, poor peering will hurt them just as much as it hurts IS. The fact is that IS has the majority of the corporate market, which Telkom clearly wants a slice of. Clearly ADSL users are going to access those corporate sites and that is why the peering links are so busy. If ADSL uses can not access their banks they are going to call Telkom to complain and blame Telkom. I think ICASA must regulate peering just like it regulates the PSTN interconnects between Telkom and cell phones companies.
 
well it looks like it is heading to the competition board next, rather than icasa. This is a very smart move since I doubt icasa would have done much to help.
 
Here are the major facts as I see them.

People will start suffering when using Telkoms broadband when trying to get to sites like banks etc and they will bitch at the ISP's and not Telkom as they know that telkom do not care and they only way is to push the ISP, at the end of the day people just will end up pay more and getting less.

Telkom should not be allowed to do this.

To IS I would upgrade the peering links into Jinx, get uunet to do the same and guess what 30% of the internet will go slow, namley Telkoms base let them suffer and then they will come to the party.
 
IS's Rosebank Data Center is in the same building as JINX, they have at least a 100meg connection to JINX there, so plenty of capacity. Easy to upgrade, just run a cable downstairs.
 
asmith said:
IS's Rosebank Data Center is in the same building as JINX, they have at least a 100meg connection to JINX there, so plenty of capacity. Easy to upgrade, just run a cable downstairs.
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That is the OLD IS building. It's just the data center left there. IS, and the new shiney bigger data center is in Bryanstone now.

Also where did JINX come into this?
This is about the peering line between IS and SAIX directly. That is not JINX nor has anything to do with it.
 
I think WW was trying to make a point that if IS has great peering with everyone else it would help. I think they do have, so it is not actualy an issue. Rosebank is still a very important location for IS, although clearly they like to show off the shiny one on the Bryanston campus.
 
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