Salary Question

[Deadmanza]

Hi All,

Just a quick question, I am just finishing off my MCSE Private cloud certifications and am wondering what bracket I should be in.

I have the following qualifications -

-A+
-N+
-70-270
-CLP and CLP Advanced (Certified Lotus Notes Professional)
-3CX Certified Engineer Basic and Advanced
-MCSA (70-410/70-411/70-412)
-MCSE Desktop Infrastructure (70-415/70-416)
-MCSE Server Infrastructure (70-413/70-414)
-MCSE Private Cloud (70-246) *I write my 70-247 next week.*

I have 8 years experience in the field, 4 of which are as a senior/administrator.

Any idea's what I should be earning?

 

[hondaboysa]

R20K +

 

[Ry4n]

I would say around 30 to 35k depending on server experience.

 

[Deadmanza]

I would say around 30 to 35k depending on server experience.

This was my thinking as well...

Need to start making changes.

 

[Dysan669]

Would also have to agree with 30-35k, 8 years experience in the field really counts for a lot. Biggest issue is most company's see the IT dept as a huge money hole. Specially in the manufacturing environments so to pull that kind of salary(even if you do actually deserve it) you really need to find someone that values their IT infrastructure a lot.

 

[DrewChan]

CTC? Gross? Nett?

 

[Deadmanza]

CTC? Gross? Nett?

You asking my current?

 

[nand]

I thought Microsoft-related infrastructure engineers are paid big bucks?

 

[Deadmanza]

I thought Microsoft-related infrastructure engineers are paid big bucks?

That is what I am trying to establish, Want to approach my current company and see what they say. Otherwise will have to start looking...

 

[nand]

That is what I am trying to establish, Want to approach my current company and see what they say. Otherwise will have to start looking...

Have a look on Payscale as well:
http://www.payscale.com/research/ZA/Job=Senior_Systems_Administrator/Salary

Looks like bad news.

 

[Deadmanza]

Have a look on Payscale as well:
http://www.payscale.com/research/ZA/Job=Senior_Systems_Administrator/Salary

Looks like bad news.

Not really, I am quite happy with some of the figures

 

[DrewChan]

Sorry I should have added more information. I am asking whether you want the projected salary as Gross, Nett or CTC - the 3 numbers can differ greatly depending on your salary package

 

[Deadmanza]

Sorry I should have added more information. I am asking whether you want the projected salary as Gross, Nett or CTC - the 3 numbers can differ greatly depending on your salary package

Ah ok makes sense.

Would prefer CTC so I have a better idea.

 

[DrewChan]

I'm guessing then 25k - 30k is quite viable depending on the company

 

[Deadmanza]

I'm guessing then 25k - 30k is quite viable depending on the company

Hmmmm ok and if I was to add a SQL or Exchange certification into the mix?

I am wanting to breach the 40K mark by the time I hit 10 - 12 years exp?

 

[Paul_S]

I've been looking at various IT pay scales and it seems once you hit the 400-500k per annum range the only way to earn more is to be a "senior walk-on-water" type of techie working for the financial services environment.
The alternatives are:
- Become a manager
- Become an analyst
- Forget about working for someone else - become self employed

I'm starting to look at the last option. Inflation is outstripping increases and I don't want to work for idiots for the rest of my life.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Hmmmm ok and if I was to add a SQL or Exchange certification into the mix?

I am wanting to breach the 40K mark by the time I hit 10 - 12 years exp?

A certification only goes so far as it would be applicable to any individual role.

If the company doesn't have a need for the Exchange part then it doesn't mean they'll pay you more just for having it.

 

[smb3]

That is what I am trying to establish, Want to approach my current company and see what they say. Otherwise will have to start looking...

Did you check on career junction or similar?

Basically you'd put in one of 2 options:

* Current + 10 to 25% - What most companies like to do ... if you approach your company then this most likely will happen (and your range would be 7.5% - 15% then)
* Some value you think you're worth - I would strategically and intentionally ask a higher value than previous answers. There is no risk with that if you are in pure negotiations because either you'd get that value or you'd get negotiated to the forum answers.

 

[Deadmanza]

Did you check on career junction or similar?

Basically you'd put in one of 2 options:

* Current + 10 to 25% - What most companies like to do ... if you approach your company then this most likely will happen (and your range would be 7.5% - 15% then)
* Some value you think you're worth - I would strategically and intentionally ask a higher value than previous answers. There is no risk with that if you are in pure negotiations because either you'd get that value or you'd get negotiated to the forum answers.

Makes sense. Will start with option 2 and than look at places like Pnet and the like.

 

[nand]

Did you check on career junction or similar?

Basically you'd put in one of 2 options:

* Current + 10 to 25% - What most companies like to do ... if you approach your company then this most likely will happen (and your range would be 7.5% - 15% then)
* Some value you think you're worth - I would strategically and intentionally ask a higher value than previous answers. There is no risk with that if you are in pure negotiations because either you'd get that value or you'd get negotiated to the forum answers.

Agreed. a;ways ask for higher than what you are prepared to settle for. It allows both you and the employer room to negotiate.
Just don't ask 30%+ your current salary, unless you're applying to the circus.