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Samsung 40D5000 vs Sony 40EX520
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nanonyous
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As a rule of thumb, the price/performance ratio for Samsung is better while overall build quality for Sony is better, while not necessarily coming up to the same standard of picture quality and/or feature diversity for a given price point.
If you have a Sony DVD player and/or sound-system, I'd recommend the Sony system for Bravia Sync, though that would be the primary factor for people like me, not necessarily for you.
Best advise I could give would be to get to some stores that happen to have both on display, ask for their remotes, reset them to factory defaults (they're more often than not set up with different contrast/brightness and crap either by the floor staff or by customers doing what you'd be doing), play the same footage on them - ideally, make this a 1080P movie that you have on two discs or the like (or use some non copyright material so you don't get pomped by any white knights), then while they're more or less synced, adjust their brightness, contrast, colour etc and determine for yourself which looks better at full resolution.
Then ask for a pair of dvix-compatable DVD players and connect them using the composite output, and play some SD content, determine which you prefer the SD quality of, as some of your content may still be SD and/or you may be watching SD TV.
At the end of the day, only you can decide which you're going to prefer from a picture perspective. Sound is a whole problem on its own, and you're not going to get good results testing that in most stores.
Oh, and very important thing to note, in case you don't know already - just because a Samsung TV says it's "120Hz" does not mean it in fact displays at 120Hz, and so does not automatically qualify it as a 3D TV when using LCD shutter glasses.
On some of those Samsung TVs advertised as being 120Hz, they've got a sampling engine that applies temporal smoothing to the footage in order to reduce tearing and create the illusion of footage playing at a higher framerate (relative) than the source footage is.
If you have a Sony DVD player and/or sound-system, I'd recommend the Sony system for Bravia Sync, though that would be the primary factor for people like me, not necessarily for you.
Best advise I could give would be to get to some stores that happen to have both on display, ask for their remotes, reset them to factory defaults (they're more often than not set up with different contrast/brightness and crap either by the floor staff or by customers doing what you'd be doing), play the same footage on them - ideally, make this a 1080P movie that you have on two discs or the like (or use some non copyright material so you don't get pomped by any white knights), then while they're more or less synced, adjust their brightness, contrast, colour etc and determine for yourself which looks better at full resolution.
Then ask for a pair of dvix-compatable DVD players and connect them using the composite output, and play some SD content, determine which you prefer the SD quality of, as some of your content may still be SD and/or you may be watching SD TV.
At the end of the day, only you can decide which you're going to prefer from a picture perspective. Sound is a whole problem on its own, and you're not going to get good results testing that in most stores.
Oh, and very important thing to note, in case you don't know already - just because a Samsung TV says it's "120Hz" does not mean it in fact displays at 120Hz, and so does not automatically qualify it as a 3D TV when using LCD shutter glasses.
On some of those Samsung TVs advertised as being 120Hz, they've got a sampling engine that applies temporal smoothing to the footage in order to reduce tearing and create the illusion of footage playing at a higher framerate (relative) than the source footage is.
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PostmanPot
Honorary Master
For what? What do you intend using it for?
@nanonyous I might just do that, and i do have a Sony setup so CEC has been on my mind.
@PostmanPot I'll be using it as a pc monitor and for movies, I don't watch too much tv.
@intel8080 I'll keep that in mind.
Thanks for the info guys
@PostmanPot I'll be using it as a pc monitor and for movies, I don't watch too much tv.
@intel8080 I'll keep that in mind.
Thanks for the info guys
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
UA40D5000 LED backlit LCD for sure. Samsung are best for PC. Just Google 'Samsung PC Mode'.
What's budget? LA46D550 46" CCFL backlit LCD was R5,999 recently which IIRC what the UA40D5000 costs. LED backlighting isn't worth the premium if you can get a much bigger CCFL-LCD for a similar price. Size matters. Not backlight tech. At least at the entry level, where you're looking.
What's budget? LA46D550 46" CCFL backlit LCD was R5,999 recently which IIRC what the UA40D5000 costs. LED backlighting isn't worth the premium if you can get a much bigger CCFL-LCD for a similar price. Size matters. Not backlight tech. At least at the entry level, where you're looking.
nanonyous
Expert Member
That kind of functionality can be overruled by getting a Logitech Harmony remote if absolutely necessary. Even Bravia Sync is only so useful.
Connection-wise there's little in the way of compatibility for you to worry about.
Connection-wise there's little in the way of compatibility for you to worry about.
I went to a shop to buy a Sony EX520, walked out with the Samsung 40D5000, 5 days later I returned it (because i was not a "Smart TV" as the sales oke told me) then they gave me the Samsung 40D6000 for the same price as the 40D5000
I would take the 40D5000 rather... and I am a huge Sony fan....
Got a Sony AV receiver and the AnyNet future works 100% with it even though Samsung says it will only work with other Samsung products...
nanonyous
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Heh, wow, they claim that thing uses just 34w max while operating...
The Sony CX520 is rated as using a toasty 172w (though that includes 2x10w speakers, so I guess one could say ~160w for argument's sake)
R17/month if on at max draw for 16h/day 30day/month for the Sammy
R84/month if on at max draw (with adjusted speaker draw) for the Sony
R633/3year for the Sammy
R3024/3year for the Sony
This assumes one would be replacing a TV every 3 years or so to keep up with advances in tech, rather than because it broke, you got tired of it or the like. Nivo has the CX520 up at R5k on special at the moment, R7.1k for the Samsung - pity Cats don't deliver for free :l
We can't demo TVs out where I am, so the best I can do is ask online - how're you finding the black levels for PC use on the TV so far?
*edit* Then again, Cats' shipping to us is just R172... didn't quite expect that. HMMMMM
The Sony CX520 is rated as using a toasty 172w (though that includes 2x10w speakers, so I guess one could say ~160w for argument's sake)
R17/month if on at max draw for 16h/day 30day/month for the Sammy
R84/month if on at max draw (with adjusted speaker draw) for the Sony
R633/3year for the Sammy
R3024/3year for the Sony
This assumes one would be replacing a TV every 3 years or so to keep up with advances in tech, rather than because it broke, you got tired of it or the like. Nivo has the CX520 up at R5k on special at the moment, R7.1k for the Samsung - pity Cats don't deliver for free :l
We can't demo TVs out where I am, so the best I can do is ask online - how're you finding the black levels for PC use on the TV so far?
*edit* Then again, Cats' shipping to us is just R172... didn't quite expect that. HMMMMM
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PostmanPot
Honorary Master
What helped make your decision?
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
Something sounds wrong.
Sony CX520 is decent for PC. IIRC it auto detects and removes post processing, unlike Samsung which needs to be set to PC mode.
Both are PVA panels though so offer good blacks. I'd take the Samsung for sure. Sony CX520 seems to have dim backlighting.
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nanonyous
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Postman: In the shipping cost? It may be on account of how light the TV is, I don't know...
Nivo charges ~R450 shipping for the Samsung, but their shipping costs ramp up very, very quickly based on weight alone, not so much volume.
They also favour Sony TVs, though, and ship pretty much all of those free of charge, so I don't know.
Nivo charges ~R450 shipping for the Samsung, but their shipping costs ramp up very, very quickly based on weight alone, not so much volume.
They also favour Sony TVs, though, and ship pretty much all of those free of charge, so I don't know.
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
Nope, the power usage.
nanonyous
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Power Consumption (Energy Saving Mode) 34 W
Power Consumption (Max) 100 W
Typical. Figures you can't trust the specs listed on sites selling these things.
Still, if I had to guess, 'energy saving mode' would mean a backlight level that's 'average' as opposed to pushing things at full tilt, and in most usage scenarios you'd probably not be using the full backlight level anyway...
Power Consumption (Max) 100 W
Typical. Figures you can't trust the specs listed on sites selling these things.
Still, if I had to guess, 'energy saving mode' would mean a backlight level that's 'average' as opposed to pushing things at full tilt, and in most usage scenarios you'd probably not be using the full backlight level anyway...
@postmanpot, found a review on avforum and it put the Sammy ahead of the Sony. And a lot of people recommend it for gaming and I'm a gamer so it became obvious
@nanonyous I'm not a videophile so you're asking the wrong person. try finding the avforum review for the 32d5000
@nanonyous I'm not a videophile so you're asking the wrong person. try finding the avforum review for the 32d5000
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
Cool cool, was more interested in D5000 vs D5500 since you asked about the former and chose the latter.
