Samsung LED TV

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Anyone on here actually got one of these?

I love the gadgets on the series 7/8 ... ethernet, content library for games & recipies, 1GB internal memory, USB, widgets for weather, sports etc etc

These actually do seem like they can be the hub of the home ...
 

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I just bought the 6-series LA40B650 - I wanted a 100Hz panel but was blown away when I realised it has all the other features as well. It even supports DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) and if you add the USB Wi-Fi module you can interface with mobile phones like the Samsang Omnia. The Springbok tests against the British and Irish Lions are amazing on channel 170 on the HD PVR. And to think this is only 720p.
 

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Anyone on here actually got one of these?

I love the gadgets on the series 7/8 ... ethernet, content library for games & recipies, 1GB internal memory, USB, widgets for weather, sports etc etc

These actually do seem like they can be the hub of the home ...

Link to "these"?
 

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Damnit.. why did you people have to mention these things...

I'm keen on getting one now...
 

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Check this out http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/...evision&subtype=ledtv&model_cd=UE40B7020WWXXU

Boertjie, yea apart from the picture which I hear is amazing, they seem to have awesome features. And the pricing isn't *too* bad for brand new technology. I remember about 6 months ago when I herd of LED TV's I thought that'd either only be mainstream in 5 years or cost R60,000.00 on launch. But check this :

Samung UA40B7000 40" LED TV
Price: R26,999.00

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Check this out http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/...evision&subtype=ledtv&model_cd=UE40B7020WWXXU

Boertjie, yea apart from the picture which I hear is amazing, they seem to have awesome features. And the pricing isn't *too* bad for brand new technology. I remember about 6 months ago when I herd of LED TV's I thought that'd either only be mainstream in 5 years or cost R60,000.00 on launch. But check this :

Samung UA40B7000 40" LED TV
Price: R26,999.00

(Cats Digital)

It will be under 20k by Christmas.
 

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when I herd of LED TV's I thought that'd either only be mainstream in 5 years or cost R60,000.00 on launch. But check this :

Samung UA40B7000 40" LED TV
Price: R26,999.00

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These aren't the OLED sets which are due to replace LCD.
 

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Ah.

So those are the 5 year away, R60,000.00 sets? :p
 

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The problem is that I also want to get an LED LCD TV set, but at the size I want, 50", it is going to cost me around R50k. Ouuuch!!! Anything smaller is just too small. Looks like I'll have to go with plasma or normal LCD. More veering towards plasma due to brighter picture and deeper blacks.
 

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Out of interest - why does no one else have an LED set?

And dead pixels is an issue on LCD sets, I wonder if dead LED's will be the new issue ?
 

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Out of interest - why does no one else have an LED set?

Like which manufacturer?
They do, Samsung like to think they ahead of everyone by doing this...
They do sell the most TVs around the world so maybe thats why?
 

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Well I've heard nothing about Sony, LG, Panasonic etc etc ... ? It doesn't even seem to be on the cards
 

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Well I've heard nothing about Sony, LG, Panasonic etc etc ... ? It doesn't even seem to be on the cards

Panasonic is mostly a Plasma maker, as is Hitachi and Pioneer. Sony Qualias were LED BL based I believe.

However, LED backlit LCD TV is not something new. Samsung may be deliberately confusing some people, making them think they are buying an OLED display or an AMOLED display (the $2.5K XEL-1, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_XEL-1 )

However, what this Samsung is IS not a OLED or an AMOLED TV. Those are only in the prototype stage or perhaps available for purchase but are tiny and expensive.

TV manufacturers can use an LED backlight instead of the standard Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamps (LCD-CCFL) used in most LCD televisions. It is important to distinguish this method of backlighting a conventional LCD panel, with a true LED display, or an OLED display. Televisions described as 'LED TVs' are vastly different from the self-illuminating OLED, OEL or AMOLED display technologies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_TV

LED backlit is not the future. OLED and AMOLED sets are, for they offer the picture contrast ratios of high end plasma.
 
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Good post PeterCH!

They are definitely deliberately confusing people. Cant wait for OLED!
 

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Panasonic is mostly a Plasma maker, as is Hitachi and Pioneer. Sony Qualias were LED BL based I believe.

However, LED backlit LCD TV is not something new. Samsung may be deliberately confusing some people, making them think they are buying an OLED display or an AMOLED display (the $2.5K XEL-1, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_XEL-1 )

However, what this Samsung is IS not a OLED or an AMOLED TV. Those are only in the prototype stage or perhaps available for purchase but are tiny and expensive.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_TV

LED backlit is not the future. OLED and AMOLED sets are, for they offer the picture contrast ratios of high end plasma.

green and blue LEDs produces a more pure white light than is possible with a single white light). RGB LED technology continues to be used on selected Sony BRAVIA LCD models, with the addition of 'local dimming' which enables excellent on-screen contrast through selectively turning off the LEDs behind dark parts of a picture frame.

Mine has this... where I can change the back light settings...
Is that all LED is?:eek:
 

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Mine has this... where I can change the back light settings...
Is that all LED is?:eek:

The LEDs are controlled according to the image displayed... so if the picture is black, the TV turns off the back lighting in that area so that the black is darker. With this technology the backlighting is split into a matrix of blocks which can be enables/disabled on the fly as the image is displayed.

In the past, the whole screen had one static backlight. Unless I understand this wrong...
 

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The LEDs are controlled according to the image displayed... so if the picture is black, the TV turns off the back lighting in that area so that the black is darker. With this technology the backlighting is split into a matrix of blocks which can be enables/disabled on the fly as the image is displayed.

In the past, the whole screen had one static backlight. Unless I understand this wrong...

Are you sure you aren't talking about OLED?
 

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The LEDs are controlled according to the image displayed... so if the picture is black, the TV turns off the back lighting in that area so that the black is darker. With this technology the backlighting is split into a matrix of blocks which can be enables/disabled on the fly as the image is displayed.

In the past, the whole screen had one static backlight. Unless I understand this wrong...

I thought the same thing tbh ... I know each individual LED cn vary with the intensity. The only question I had was - when does it know when to display bright or not?

What in the scene lets it know to change the intensity?
 

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Check this out http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/...evision&subtype=ledtv&model_cd=UE40B7020WWXXU

Boertjie, yea apart from the picture which I hear is amazing, they seem to have awesome features. And the pricing isn't *too* bad for brand new technology. I remember about 6 months ago when I herd of LED TV's I thought that'd either only be mainstream in 5 years or cost R60,000.00 on launch. But check this :

Samung UA40B7000 40" LED TV
Price: R26,999.00

(Cats Digital)

These aren't the OLED sets which are due to replace LCD.
Peter is 100% correct on this. Samsung is pulling the wool over consumer's eyes on this. Strictly speaking it is a LED Backlit LCD screen. The set uses LED lighting instead of CCFL (Cold Cathode Flourescent). LED lighting has some advantages: physical size, instant on off, and power consumption. But, as I'll explain later in this post, the 7 and 8 series are not the ideal LED backlight sets.

Panasonic is mostly a Plasma maker, as is Hitachi and Pioneer. Sony Qualias were LED BL based I believe.

However, LED backlit LCD TV is not something new. Samsung may be deliberately confusing some people, making them think they are buying an OLED display or an AMOLED display (the $2.5K XEL-1, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_XEL-1 )
True. In fact Sony has had LED backlight sets in the consumer market for 4 years. The X-series BRAVIA in the market now (46" and bigger) use RGB LED backlighting (which is better for picture quality than the Samsung side-lit white LED system.


LED backlit is not the future. OLED and AMOLED sets are, for they offer the picture contrast ratios of high end plasma.
Actually higher than the best Plasma. Plasma cells do retain some charge even when "off". OLED is pure black. OLED also use very little power. Main issue with OLED is cost and lifespan. Expect to see some 30" models on the market this year with a very high pricetag.

The LEDs are controlled according to the image displayed... so if the picture is black, the TV turns off the back lighting in that area so that the black is darker. With this technology the backlighting is split into a matrix of blocks which can be enables/disabled on the fly as the image is displayed.

In the past, the whole screen had one static backlight. Unless I understand this wrong...
In theory you are right, but not in the case of the Samsung 7 and 8 series.

The Sony LED backlight models (like the X-series) use a matrix of red, green and blue LEDs across the entire backlight of the LCD. This allows excellent colour reproduction because the backlight can be tuned to the colour required in each area of the screen, and that the screen can enhance contrast by lowering the backlight in darker areas of the picture. In addition, the use of LEDs allows for blackframe interpolation to enhance the 100Hz motion adaption of the set. This visibly reduces the appearance of LCD ghosting.

The Samsung LED LCDs use side-based LED lighting. i.e. In order to make the TV thinner, the lighting electronics are moved from behind the LCD to the edge of the screen. Cosmetically it is a great idea (this is the way most notebook LCD screens are lit), as the TV looks thin and modern. But functionally it has some drawbacks. Notebook screens are fairly small and getting an even coverage of light is not so problematic. But on a 40" or larger screen it gets very difficult to get even backlighting, and the Samsung sets suffer from this quite badly. Also, the advantage of selective LED tuning to enhance contrast and colour is nullified because the LEDS don't correspond to a certain portion of the screen. Lastly, as far as I am aware (and I could be wrong on this), Samsung is using white LEDs. These LEDs do not cover the same colour gamut that is possible using component colour LEDs (RGB).

So, my advice, if you're looking for the best quality LCD TV (and I mean one that does its main job best), look at the Sony KLV-46X450. It may not be as pretty as the Samsung, but it's a far better television. For the 46" the price is around the same as the Samsung I think.
 
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