Samsung/Sony/LG/Philips compareable models.

Lord Farquart said:
Thanks. That will make my search a lot easier. Walking into a shop is just a waste.
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I've just bought a LG C7 55-inch locally for R25k so I would imagine european pricing would be even better. The B7 should in theory be slightly cheaper as well we just never had many of them around here. It's $1500 odd on Amazon.

It's the best picture quality you can have because OLED isn't backlit and therefore much like plasma but even better can do pure black as each pixel can turn off.

You have the same risks with regards to image retention and glass panel with reflection, but since you are on a Plasma this probably should be the easier transition for you.

If you plan to use it in a super brightly lit room more of the time then the Samsung QLEDs are an option. It's an inferior technology for pure picture quality over OLED because of the backlighting but it supports local dimming (so areas of the backlight can turn off and therefore appear generally darker) instead just one static backlight across the entire screen.

However coming from a Plasma you'll probably be very disappointed with it for blacks never being black and actually being grey.

If you look at the QLED's then you might as well look at LG's Super UHD (Nano LED) tech which is the same but costs much less money. For my many irritations with Samsung that is probably where I would go.

On the flipside HiSense is punting a great many new TV's which we don't have in SA yet but might be an option over there but for not having seen them I can't comment. They are more than likely going to be ever so slightly inferior picture quality wise but would be doing so for much less money.

In that price range I don't think you can really buy a bad TV but it's rather an equation of good/better/best vs size.
 
Found the B7 and C7s. Slightly above what I wanted to pay. Comes in at 1500Euro. Will have to buy the wife a cheaper bed then.
 
Lord Farquart said:
Found the B7 and C7s. Slightly above what I wanted to pay. Comes in at 1500Euro. Will have to buy the wife a cheaper bed then.
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Ha ha.

You could always wait it out but then you risk stock running low.

I had a nightmare of a time securing on down here in SA and then had to wait two weeks as well.
 
SauRoNZA said:
I've just bought a LG C7 55-inch locally for R25k so I would imagine european pricing would be even better. The B7 should in theory be slightly cheaper as well we just never had many of them around here. It's $1500 odd on Amazon.

It's the best picture quality you can have because OLED isn't backlit and therefore much like plasma but even better can do pure black as each pixel can turn off.

You have the same risks with regards to image retention and glass panel with reflection, but since you are on a Plasma this probably should be the easier transition for you.

If you plan to use it in a super brightly lit room more of the time then the Samsung QLEDs are an option. It's an inferior technology for pure picture quality over OLED because of the backlighting but it supports local dimming (so areas of the backlight can turn off and therefore appear generally darker) instead just one static backlight across the entire screen.

However coming from a Plasma you'll probably be very disappointed with it for blacks never being black and actually being grey.

If you look at the QLED's then you might as well look at LG's Super UHD (Nano LED) tech which is the same but costs much less money. For my many irritations with Samsung that is probably where I would go.

On the flipside HiSense is punting a great many new TV's which we don't have in SA yet but might be an option over there but for not having seen them I can't comment. They are more than likely going to be ever so slightly inferior picture quality wise but would be doing so for much less money.

In that price range I don't think you can really buy a bad TV but it's rather an equation of good/better/best vs size.
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+1 on the C7. At R25k it's a great deal.
 
SauRoNZA said:
They are identical. There is no reason to choose one over the other if the one is cheaper.
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Seems like you are quite knowledgeable when it comes to these things. Would there be any benefit to buying a 4K OLED panel if I am not going to use it for any 4K content? Streaming will be done at max 1080. PS3 and no plans on upgrading now, as I then have to change steering wheels etc. So it will be used exclusively for HD content.

Buying a 4K panel and only watching HD content on it, will it be better at HD content? Would it be worth the extra money for a 4K panel? Full HD LG OLED panel is half the price of a 4K panel. Just don't know if it is worth the extra money now.

LG 55EG9A7V vs LG OLED55C7V.
 
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Lord Farquart said:
Seems like you are quite knowledgeable when it comes to these things. Would there be any benefit to buying a 4K OLED panel if I am not going to use it for any 4K content? Streaming will be done at max 1080. PS3 and no plans on upgrading now, as I then have to change steering wheels etc. So it will be used exclusively for HD content.

Buying a 4K panel and only watching HD content on it, will it be better at HD content? Would it be worth the extra money for a 4K panel? Full HD LG OLED panel is half the price of a 4K panel. Just don't know if it is worth the extra money now.

LG 55EG9A7V vs LG OLED55C7V.
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OLED55C7V is on special for R18,999 at Makro. That's less than what the 55EG9A7V was going for a while ago.
 
SauRoNZA said:
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But if you're honest, how big is the difference to you?

There was a long topic here on OLED vs QLED and everyone raved about this massive, eye watering difference. I went to Digital Experience a few weeks ago where I could view both and ... well ... it wasn't that much of a difference? Was it better? Yes. But I really expected far more. I expected the horrible washed out grey LED against this holographic type OLED, but it was really pretty close in reality. I do feel I'm fussy (I sent back my H7000 for issues that technical guy couldn't even see).

The extra R5,000 didn't warrant the picture quality difference, if I'm honest. Plus the potential image retention issue, less colours available and less bright. I think the QLED has the most colours of any TV? Latly, I love the One Connect to simplify connection.

On the other side of the coin, I lost on Dolby Vision, Netflix Atmos (though, I hear this has issues) and a few other features I liked on the OLED
 
Dolby said:
But if you're honest, how big is the difference to you?

There was a long topic here on OLED vs QLED and everyone raved about this massive, eye watering difference. I went to Digital Experience a few weeks ago where I could view both and ... well ... it wasn't that much of a difference? Was it better? Yes. But I really expected far more. I expected the horrible washed out grey LED against this holographic type OLED, but it was really pretty close in reality. I do feel I'm fussy (I sent back my H7000 for issues that technical guy couldn't even see).
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You are right in that ballpark it’s pretty similar and although OLED is better overall the price is ultimately what dictates everything.

Also you viewing arrangement should alter your decision. If you are going to be using your tv with lots of natural light more of the time then QLED wins especially if you have Windows within the reflective area. If you are mostly viewing in the dark then OLED’s pure black shines again.

Any showroom floor is a terrible place to compare TV’s and in this case actually represents OLED quite badly.

The extra R5,000 didn't warrant the picture quality difference, if I'm honest. Plus the potential image retention issue, less colours available and less bright. I think the QLED has the most colours of any TV? Latly, I love the One Connect to simplify connection.
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Not sure what you are on about colours. Think that’s marketing koolaid talking right there.

Retention is a non-issue as well unless you are completely oblivious and an idiot.

One Connect I can see the appeal in certain setups. I should mention LG does have a similar thing on specific models though.

On the other side of the coin, I lost on Dolby Vision, Netflix Atmos (though, I hear this has issues) and a few other features I liked on the OLED
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Probably not a major loss for most and would only matter to people who are going all in with an Atmos setup already or in the near future.

For me personally at the special price paid (R25k) there was no contest against QLED as their nearest ballpark TV was at least 10k more.

That being said even now depending on viewing area though I would still recommend last year’s OLED for a bargain price over this years QLED for double the money.

At full retail price? Then I would only recommend something based on your specific viewing area and use case.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Not sure what you are on about colours. Think that’s marketing koolaid talking right there
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I use ratings a lot and I don't think I've seen anything with a wider gamut (https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qled-q7f-q7). The colours combined with the brightness, actually create a fantastic picture.

This color gamut is outstanding, slightly better than the LG OLED B6, C6 and E6 which scored the highest in 2016. HDR content mastered in the DCI P3 color space is reproduced almost perfectly, and content with Rec 2020 color is reproduced well. The color space changes automatically when an HDR source is detected.

I paid R29,995.00 for a 65" QLED and I think the equivalent OLED was R35,000+. I could eiether drop the screen size or take the QLED ... and at the price, was a no brainer.

I know you say image retention is a non issue, but even the latest OLED reviews point it out. That was the biggest negative of OLED for me, as I use a fair amount of static images.

But in the end, as you said, it depends on the person and use. Overall for me QLED was the better option for 20% less price :)
 
That review does go back to 2016 models though where my comments were more relating to 2017 and onwards in which case the very same Rtings reviews the OLED range as superior in those same aspects.

I think it’s a good thing to be informed about image retention and yes if you put the two side by side and purposely leave a static image on the OLED will loose the fight over a long enough period.

However in the real world using normal practise and leaving the screen’s built-in protection mechanisms enabled it really isn’t a concern to be had.

But at the end of the day you need to buy what works for you. I will personally avoid Samsung purely because of past reliability experiences numerous times.
 
It does refer to 2016... However go look at 2017 though. Or even 2018. They still have fewer colors and are less bright.
 
I think sanity prevailed. I had a look at my needs, which is basically local HD TV, and streaming via TerrariumTV and Kodi, where most sources are also HD. I also still roll with a PS3, as my steering wheels do not work on PS4. Another R8k excl the console to upgrade, so not going to happen now. So, having only HD sources, why should I buy 4K? I had no answer, so the only HD OLED I could find, was the LG 55EG9A7V at a tad under R14k.

Hooked it up and mind is blown. Well, coming from a 2007 Plasma, that should be fairly easy. But still, the blacks are balck and the picture is as good as I can expect for the money. Not that an extra R10K would be noticeably better from where I sit. Thanks [MENTION=97943]SauRoNZA[/MENTION].
 
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