Samsung/Sony/LG/Philips compareable models.

[Lord Farquart]

I need to buy a new TV. Last one I bought was back in 2007 a 50" plasma that cost me R27k. Sold it a few weeks ago for R2500. Had absolutely no problems with it in all that time.

I have a pretty good idea of what is considered poverty spec and high end when it comes to Samsung. 4 Series 65" for people that drive G7s and like to swing their dicks. 9(9xxx) Series for those that know what it is about, and anything inbetween depending on your budget.

I would be looking at 7000 and upwards, 55" because of the size limitation of the room. Samsung make some awesome units, but sometimes a Sony, Philips or LG would be available at a better price.

Question is, how do I compare what I know about Samsung, with the same models from other manufacturers? Would a Samsung 8xxx model have a compareable Sony 8x, or Philips 8xx and LG 8XXX? How does the models work. Google is not being very friendly at the moment.

 

[Sumen]

I need to buy a new TV. Last one I bought was back in 2007 a 50" plasma that cost me R27k. Sold it a few weeks ago for R2500. Had absolutely no problems with it in all that time.

I have a pretty good idea of what is considered poverty spec and high end when it comes to Samsung. 4 Series 65" for people that drive G7s and like to swing their dicks. 9(9xxx) Series for those that know what it is about, and anything inbetween depending on your budget.

I would be looking at 7000 and upwards, 55" because of the size limitation of the room. Samsung make some awesome units, but sometimes a Sony, Philips or LG would be available at a better price.

Question is, how do I compare what I know about Samsung, with the same models from other manufacturers? Would a Samsung 8xxx model have a compareable Sony 8x, or Philips 8xx and LG 8XXX? How does the models work. Google is not being very friendly at the moment.

What's the maximum budget?
Also Sony and Philips don't sell TV's in SA so you left with Samsung, LG and Hisense if you looking for Excellent TV's.

 

[SauRoNZA]

R7000 or 7000 model series? I’m confused.

As for models between brands they mean nothing.

You look at specs and what different tv’s can do.

 

[Lord Farquart]

R7000 or 7000 model series? I’m confused.

As for models between brands they mean nothing.

You look at specs and what different tv’s can do.

As an example, the Samsung UN55NU8500FXZA. 55" panel and an 8 series (8500). That is almost top of the range. a 4500 would be at the bottom and a 9500 at the top. All about features, refresh rate etc. a 4500 would typically have a refreshrate of 50Hz, and this goes up with series numbers. You would not want to watch fast moving action/sport on a 4xxx. But might also not have teh bucks to buy a 9xxx, so you settle for something inbetween.

Samsung might sometimes be a bit overpriced, so I was hoping for an easy reference guide to model numbers between manufacturers..

 

[Lord Farquart]

What's the maximum budget?
Also Sony and Philips don't sell TV's in SA so you left with Samsung, LG and Hisense if you looking for Excellent TV's.

Not for SA, so Sony and Philips can be had. Just trying to make sense of model numbers. Budget equivalent to R15-20k. Samsung UE55MU8000 is right up there at the moment, but LG 55SJ850V and Philips 55PUS7502 trying their best to knock it off the pedestal due to price.

 

[f2wohf]

What's the maximum budget?
Also Sony and Philips don't sell TV's in SA so you left with Samsung, LG and Hisense if you looking for Excellent TV's.

You could also add Bang & Olufsen to this list if the budget is really high.

 

[Sumen]

Not for SA, so Sony and Philips can be had. Just trying to make sense of model numbers. Budget equivalent to R15-20k. Samsung UE55MU8000 is right up there at the moment, but LG 55SJ850V and Philips 55PUS7502 trying their best to knock it off the pedestal due to price.

Ok, know Sony has really good TV, where will these be bought from, then it will be easier to see what's available

 

[Lord Farquart]

You could also add Bang & Olufsen to this list if the budget is really high.

Budget not even close to that.

 

[Lord Farquart]

Ok, know Sony has really good TV, where will these be bought from, then it will be easier to see what's available

These guys usually have better prices than Amazon. So most probably buy from them again.

https://www.coolblue.nl

 

[SauRoNZA]

As an example, the Samsung UN55NU8500FXZA. 55" panel and an 8 series (8500). That is almost top of the range. a 4500 would be at the bottom and a 9500 at the top. All about features, refresh rate etc. a 4500 would typically have a refreshrate of 50Hz, and this goes up with series numbers. You would not want to watch fast moving action/sport on a 4xxx. But might also not have teh bucks to buy a 9xxx, so you settle for something inbetween.

Samsung might sometimes be a bit overpriced, so I was hoping for an easy reference guide to model numbers between manufacturers..

Okay firstly there isn’t such a thing as a 50hz LCD panel.

Our broadcast signals are 50hz but the panels are 60hz.

Then at the upper echelon you will see 120hz native panels. Anyone claiming 200hz or 400hz is talking *** and using interpolation but the native is still 60hz.

Fast moving action sports therefore have nothing at all to do with the native panel refresh rate. What does affect those kinds of things is response time and internal processing which should be of no concern on any modern tv.

In fact most people would turn all the processing off including interpolation to avoid the soap opera effect and therefore it would run at a native 60hz.

120hz panels would still use the broadcast standard refresh rate just with double frames or black ones in between.

Much like cars model numbers should only be used to differentiate models from a given manufacturer in their own range.

I personally wouldn’t touch Samsung again for having many reliability issues over and over again.

You still didn’t specify your budget?

You can use Rtings as a guide for model comparison across brands. If you like YouTube check out HDTVtest.

More important should be the underlying technology of OLED vs various flavours of LED backlighting.

Resolution and then HDR functions.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-size/55-inch

Now is a very good time to be buying last years top end models for the same money as this years mid range models, without losing much of anything at all over this years top end ones.

 

[SauRoNZA]

You could also add Bang & Olufsen to this list if the budget is really high.

Or just buy the LG/Samsung/Panasonic that they rebrand for much less money.

Their TVs aren’t very good for the money paid. They do have fancy motorised arms and frames and things though.

 

[Lord Farquart]

Okay firstly there isn’t such a thing as a 50hz LCD panel.

Our broadcast signals are 50hz but the panels are 60hz.

Then at the upper echelon you will see 120hz native panels. Anyone claiming 200hz or 400hz is talking *** and using interpolation but the native is still 60hz.

Fast moving action sports therefore have nothing at all to do with the native panel refresh rate. What does affect those kinds of things is response time and internal processing which should be of no concern on any modern tv.

In fact most people would turn all the processing off including interpolation to avoid the soap opera effect and therefore it would run at a native 60hz.

120hz panels would still use the broadcast standard refresh rate just with double frames or black ones in between.

Much like cars model numbers should only be used to differentiate models from a given manufacturer in their own range.

I personally wouldn’t touch Samsung again for having many reliability issues over and over again.

You still didn’t specify your budget?

You can use Rtings as a guide for model comparison across brands. If you like YouTube check out HDTVtest.

Thanks for the explanation. Actually I did specify the budget. Not much of a budget, but trying to get the best bang for my bucks. Picture quality is everything to me. No speakers and 1 HDMI port would be more than sufficien, but unfortunately I am buying TV, not a PC. So I can not uncheck some features.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Thanks for the explanation. Actually I did specify the budget. Not much of a budget, but trying to get the best bang for my bucks. Picture quality is everything to me. No speakers and 1 HDMI port would be more than sufficien, but unfortunately I am buying TV, not a PC. So I can not uncheck some features.

You’ll see I raised a question mark about the 7000 you stated as it had no currency applied so wasn’t sure if you meant model number or money.

Unfortunately R7000 doesn’t get you much in the way of picture quality and is right at the bottom end.

Unless you compromise on size and get a 43-inch.

 

[upup]

Game sells some make, they tell you is a sony.

 

[Sumen]

These guys usually have better prices than Amazon. So most probably buy from them again.

https://www.coolblue.nl

Ok, along with Samsung MU8000 you can also get Philips PUS8303(https://www.coolblue.nl/product/808399/philips-49pus8303.html ) or Sony XE9005(https://www.coolblue.nl/product/768521/sony-kd-55xe9005.html ), they all have true HDR and Picture quality is excellent

 

[f2wohf]

Or just buy the LG/Samsung/Panasonic that they rebrand for much less money.

Their TVs aren’t very good for the money paid. They do have fancy motorised arms and frames and things though.

I'm sort of blind as a bat with screen resolutions (still happy with a 10+ year old TV and my new 4k laptop doesn't make a difference with my 2011 Macbook) so I was just mentioning that they're available too.

I don't have a clue of their pricing actually.

 

[Lord Farquart]

You’ll see I raised a question mark about the 7000 you stated as it had no currency applied so wasn’t sure if you meant model number or money.

Unfortunately R7000 doesn’t get you much in the way of picture quality and is right at the bottom end.

Unless you compromise on size and get a 43-inch.

Nope, not R7k.I replied to Sumen just below that post and said R15-R20k. Well, in Euro max 1250. I know I can get a decent panel for that money, But, if I can get away with spending 800Euro for something not Samsung, then bargain.

Hence the question about equivalent panel serie numbers. I have noticed all the other manufacturers have 6, 7, 8 and 9 starting numbers in their models too.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I'm sort of blind as a bat with screen resolutions (still happy with a 10+ year old TV and my new 4k laptop doesn't make a difference with my 2011 Macbook) so I was just mentioning that they're available too.

I don't have a clue of their pricing actually.

Stupidly expensive.

And then it’s literally just re-branding in this case as none of these companies make their own panels.

Their audio products can in some cases be a different story though.

If your 2011 MacBook was a Retina gig wouldn’t notice. Apple was ahead of the game here as with most things.

And even before Retina their screens being better and calibrated in factory beats most.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Nope, not R7k.I replied to Sumen just below that post and said R15-R20k. Well, in Euro max 1250. I know I can get a decent panel for that money, But, if I can get away with spending 800Euro for something not Samsung, then bargain.

Hence the question about equivalent panel serie numbers. I have noticed all the other manufacturers have 6, 7, 8 and 9 starting numbers in their models too.

LG OLED is the best thing you can buy on special for that money in Europe I reckon.

They have ranges like A B C etc with the 7 implying 2017.

Thing is across their ranges the OLED panel is the same so the quality is the same and only form factors and packaging changes.

You’ll see Rtings rate the B7 as the best TV in 55-inch and it’s identical to the C7 except for the stand and colour. Both should be on crazy specials as the C8 has just launched.

 

[Lord Farquart]

LG OLED is the best thing you can buy on special for that money in Europe I reckon.

They have ranges like A B C etc with the 7 implying 2017.

Thing is across their ranges the OLED panel is the same so the quality is the same and only form factors and packaging changes.

You’ll see Rtings rate the B7 as the best TV in 55-inch and it’s identical to the C7 except for the stand and colour. Both should be on crazy specials as the C8 has just launched.

Thanks. That will make my search a lot easier. Walking into a shop is just a waste.