SARS eFiling 2024/2025

The Free Radical said:
Trusts and NGO/NPO's are going to be heavily AI / cross reference audited this year, hence the extended period for them.
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Not trust just provisionals but that's all good have been selected every year and all my goodies are in order anyway
 
It is just as difficult to get anything done locally.

They fined me for late submission on three returns that had been submitted on time, I have SARS reports showing that.

Numerous complaints and appeals later I just gave up and paid the fines.

IMHO they are absolutely useless and incompetent.
 
PowerfulMagicalEvil said:
Expat here. Anyone else had SARS trying to fine them 15 years after not submitting a tax return one year, having never brought it up before? Is this something they have recently started doing?

Anyway, they want to fine me, they kept increasing the interest. They've passed me to creditors. I only know about this because I bothered to check my old email that I haven't used in about a decade.

Only way I can pay is via swift, which I haven't used before. Do they send you confirmation on receipt or something? Will I have to follow up with them to make sure they got it and that they have applied it to my account? Seems like they're impossible to get hold of. Previously I tried to contact them via email, my query went unanswered, even though the automated response gave me a query number and told me they'd get back to me. I then tried to phone them. I sat in the queue for an hour on my day off, finally got to the front of the queue and they hung up on me immediately before I could speak to anyone... That phone call cost me quite a lot of money to accomplish nothing.

Getting anything done from overseas seems very difficult.
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They chased me up last year for a return from almost 20 years ago...scraping the barrel as much as they can now .
 
PowerfulMagicalEvil said:
Expat here. Anyone else had SARS trying to fine them 15 years after not submitting a tax return one year, having never brought it up before? Is this something they have recently started doing?

Anyway, they want to fine me, they kept increasing the interest. They've passed me to creditors. I only know about this because I bothered to check my old email that I haven't used in about a decade.

Only way I can pay is via swift, which I haven't used before. Do they send you confirmation on receipt or something? Will I have to follow up with them to make sure they got it and that they have applied it to my account? Seems like they're impossible to get hold of. Previously I tried to contact them via email, my query went unanswered, even though the automated response gave me a query number and told me they'd get back to me. I then tried to phone them. I sat in the queue for an hour on my day off, finally got to the front of the queue and they hung up on me immediately before I could speak to anyone... That phone call cost me quite a lot of money to accomplish nothing.

Getting anything done from overseas seems very difficult.
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when you log into efiling and you can see the fine, there is a "click here to make a payment" normally takes 5 seconds..
 
Jam Sandwich said:
They chased me up last year for a return from almost 20 years ago...scraping the barrel as much as they can now .
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I thought they could only go back 15 years or so.

They hit me last year with submissions from 2008 and 2009... even with penalties, I got double my usual tax return.
 
PowerfulMagicalEvil said:
For a swift payment or paying from a South African bank account?
My South African bank account is dead, like my sars account was until this whole thing kicked off and I had create a new one. My South African bank account is deactivated after so long of having not used it, and I'd have to go to a branch physically to reactivate it and gain access to it. I can only pay using swift.
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ahhh this poses a problem... is there not a friend in SA that can pay the ETF for you, and then you just reimburse them? If yes then reimburse them with a TakeAlot or Amazon voucher which you can buy with your credit card.
 
PowerfulMagicalEvil said:
For a swift payment or paying from a South African bank account?
My South African bank account is dead, like my sars account was until this whole thing kicked off and I had create a new one. My South African bank account is deactivated after so long of having not used it, and I'd have to go to a branch physically to reactivate it and gain access to it. I can only pay using swift.
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Are you coming back to SA? If not ignore, if yes, pay your taxes.
 
Had a fine a couple of years ago. Left SA 7 years earlier in 2015, and was fined because I hadn’t submitted a return for 2016. Biggest ball ache was getting back on the efiling site. Anyway, was only for the half year I’d worked in the 2015/16 tax year. Ended up getting a refund (lol) and they reversed the fine, too.
 
PowerfulMagicalEvil said:
I signed up to efiling again, gave them proof etc, just so I could get the balance etc to pay off the penalty, but none of my history is there or anything.

I might have to activate irp6 itr12 to get my history there, I'm not sure... but I don't want to activate it if that means they expect me to start filing returns again, because I haven't lived in SA in years and don't need to file returns.

Got an email from a third party collector last month. So I followed their instructions on how to see the amount owed using the reference number they gave me, with a sars query request on the account statement. It says my balance is zero. I checked the last 6 months, and also went back 16 years to latest date. It still says zero balance, but I can see tax history there, which I guess is a good sign that it's picking up my old info.

Did they just write it off? Or do I have to do something stupid like activate it to get penalties to show up?
The penalty and interest transactions that are shown in the emails that sars previously have sent me are not on the account statement transactions.

If I owed them anything, surely efiling would be whining at me, alerting me to it even if those particular tax types aren't marked as active?
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Unless you have financially emigrated you still have to file a tax return every year... so having left the country 10 years or whatever ago, you must still do it every year. Now if you haven't financially emigrated your yearly tax return is supposed to show what you're earning in your new land of the free country, because you are supposed to be taxed on that earning if there is a difference to the SA tables if you fail the physical presence test.. if you fail the physical presence test you then go to the 183 etc rule. Either way you still have to submit a return each year (I'm sure most people don't)

In your case I would just hire a normal accountant in SA to do your returns each year, and yes SARS want to know what you are earning overseas (actually they do know since they have access to most countries through agreements)
 
Hi All
When a person is automatically assessed by Sars, are the 'medical expenses not paid by medical aid' automatically included in the assessment by Sars, if it's on the medical aid tax certificate?

Or does a person have to manually input that amount?
 
Ismail08 said:
Hi All
When a person is automatically assessed by Sars, are the 'medical expenses not paid by medical aid' automatically included in the assessment by Sars, if it's on the medical aid tax certificate?

Or does a person have to manually input that amount?
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In all likelyhood, you need to reject the auto assessment and then include those. I see my stuff is issued and populated (though i had to take a detour to get there/see them).

I would submit if not for the fact that I am waiting for AFB to fix a tax certificate number. According to TaxTim i should expect an R8k refund. A meager sum compared to previous years.
 
Ismail08 said:
Hi All
When a person is automatically assessed by Sars, are the 'medical expenses not paid by medical aid' automatically included in the assessment by Sars, if it's on the medical aid tax certificate?

Or does a person have to manually input that amount?
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If it’s not there then you should.
 
Anyone else get the "Participation in the auto-assessment process" mail?

The auto-assessment process was introduced as a service to taxpayers a couple of years ago. Since then, more than 60% of taxpayers are auto-assessed each year, which means that they do not have to file a tax return in order to be assessed.

In short, an auto-assessment is an assessment that we automatically calculate based on information that SARS already have, submitted by third-parties like employers, financial institutions, and medical aid schemes.

In the past we excluded provisional taxpayers like yourselves from the auto-assessment process. This year, some provisional taxpayers are afforded the opportunity to participate in the auto-assessment process.

You are potentially eligible for participation. Follow the steps below to participate:
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PowerfulMagicalEvil said:
I signed up to efiling again, gave them proof etc, just so I could get the balance etc to pay off the penalty, but none of my history is there or anything.

I might have to activate irp6 itr12 to get my history there, I'm not sure... but I don't want to activate it if that means they expect me to start filing returns again, because I haven't lived in SA in years and don't need to file returns.

Got an email from a third party collector last month. So I followed their instructions on how to see the amount owed using the reference number they gave me, with a sars query request on the account statement. It says my balance is zero. I checked the last 6 months, and also went back 16 years to latest date. It still says zero balance, but I can see tax history there, which I guess is a good sign that it's picking up my old info.

Did they just write it off? Or do I have to do something stupid like activate it to get penalties to show up?
The penalty and interest transactions that are shown in the emails that sars previously have sent me are not on the account statement transactions.

If I owed them anything, surely efiling would be whining at me, alerting me to it even if those particular tax types aren't marked as active?
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email from third party collector...

Helllo scam...
 
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