did they refund you after discovering the error?
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did they refund you after discovering the error?
HavocXphere
Honorary Master
Be thankful its only a 6 figure amount blu.
If you do manage to sort this out, please let me know - I know someone in a similar situation & SARS isn't playing ball.
If you do manage to sort this out, please let me know - I know someone in a similar situation & SARS isn't playing ball.
Oh yes they most certainly can. Its a fairly recent thing though since like 4 years ago.
blunomore
Honorary Master
It was not that kind of error. I applied for tax clearance, they gave it and subsequently "discovered" that I owed them R24K for PAYE from 3 years back. When I queried as to how they could have issued the tax clearance when there were outstanding taxes, they said it was human error on their side - the tax clearance should never have been issued.
I saw advertising the other day for a US company that gets back tax from the IRS for you if you send them the details of being screwed in tax.
South Africa so badly needs something like this but without the SARS processes to claim back unfair treatment the public gets screwed. I wish SARS could get audited as it is the middle class paying PAYE that are open to get screwed the most with inadequate and biased SARS processes
South Africa so badly needs something like this but without the SARS processes to claim back unfair treatment the public gets screwed. I wish SARS could get audited as it is the middle class paying PAYE that are open to get screwed the most with inadequate and biased SARS processes
they would have pursued you with equal fairness if the mistake had been on your side
blunomore
Honorary Master
They get the benefit if I make a mistake ......... and they ALSO get the benefit if they themselves make a mistake. How is that fair??????
Classic response from someone who hasn't owned a business and actually worked with them.
Scum would be the most appropriate response. They know they are guilty but they'll try their luck anyway. Mostly to "test" if you keep your records
SARS employees are really vindictive, if you dare suggest they aren't doing their job they'll go ahead with whatever "accusation" they've made regardless if they know you are not in the wrong.
Are you 100% sure they are correct about that?
FYI if you owe them money they appoint the bank as their own personal tax collecting agent (part of the Tax act) and take the money from your account without even letting you know.
Took my Mom over 1 year to collect ~R150k. We had to go to court, thereafter at least they had to pay it back + 7% interest.
blunomore
Honorary Master
No I am not 100% sure but that is my auditor's job and she seems to think that we do owe those monies.
You can't pan the entire organisation because you have had issues with a couple employees.
They are very efficient at what they do, which is collecting tax. Probably one of the top parastatel-type companies in the world.
Your priority is the best methods in which to avoid (not evade) paying tax, theirs is the best methods to thwart you.
blunomore
Honorary Master
Yes, they are good at filling the coffers. Best functioning department ....... now, if only the ones RENDERING SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS were good too, we would feel so much better!!!
Agreed
We've never avoided tax. It is their incompetence that is the problem. More importantly they blatantly try to break the law and steal from the citizens of this country that try to build it up by creating jobs.
They make accusations and then expect you to do their homework for them. Which is they want you to PROVE your innocence, and when you do they'll call you back days later with the exact same accusation because "Oh no no no no, I waz not infomed, it is not in you file". Typical.
My personal favorite is when they try to get records and taxes for years past which they may legally request them (eg. they may not request paper work for taxes over 5 or 8 years or something). They tried to tax us for 15 years ago. As soon as you confront them with the relevant legislation: "OOOHhhhh ok, bye". That person knew it wasn't legal but just tried anyway.
Pathetic employees and work ethic just like every other government run department. They are like the traffic police, constantly using unethical methods to collect monies because their bonuses depend on how many honest citizen they were able to defraud.
You are either ignorant about how tax in SA works or you works for SARS, probably the latter. In which case, WAKE UP!
I'm confused, isn't her job to make sure you pay the correct amounts?
I'd go shopping for another auditor IMHO. Mom had a fellow who was the same, he always "thought" that we owed whatever SARS asked. After they came with another R100k that we supposedly owed us went to another auditor who set everything straight.
When they took the R150k from my Mom's account they fought the battle to get the moneys and eventually went to auditors council or some such as that.
Think we are marked now tho because every month they have a new story of monies owed to them and each time it is, as usual, fictitious.
blunomore
Honorary Master
Huh?? Of course it is my auditor's job to make sure I pay the correct amount. But how in heck can she stop SARS from claiming crazy amounts -that's not her fault or her doing at all !
blunomore
Honorary Master
SARS alleged it was an underpayment .......... but was it really???? And why did it take them 3 year to figure it out??