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I just want to clear something out. Maybe I am wrong about this, so If I am, I would like to know that. So don't flame me!! :) SASOL's petrol comes from locally produced oil (Mossgas, etc). So why is it that we pay the same price for petrol at SASOL as at Engen, for example? What am I missing?
 
The fact that everyone will try to buy at Sasol garages and their tanks would always be empty and stuff and its a regulated industry.

If the industry was deregulated it might be possible.
 
They use coal, 20% cheaper to produce than crude oil.
They cant keep up with the demand if their prices are lower.
But should things get worst, im sure government will have to do something about it.
 
But should things get worst, im sure government will have to do something about it.
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You have a lot of faith in this government. Wish I could say that I do.

As for SASOL, it is due to the regulated market and the sheer corporate greed!
 
JK8 said:
They use coal, 20% cheaper to produce than crude oil.
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Erm, no. Crude oil's cost varies from $2 a barrel to $25 a barrel depending on which field it's being extracted from and whether the field is land based or sea based. Sasol's costs have been estimated at $50 a barrel.

It's way more expensive to manufacture synthetic oil than it is to just pump it out of the ground. The whole world would have been doing it otherwise.
 
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Ha. So it wasn't a stupid question. I'd say corporate greed plays the bigger part. I for one don't fill up at Sasol. I realize that it will have no impact on them but it makes ME feel better :)
 
Rkootknir said:
Erm, no. Crude oil's cost varies from $2 a barrel to $25 a barrel depending on which field it's being extracted from and whether the field is land based or sea based. Sasol's costs have been estimated at $50 a barrel.

It's way more expensive to manufacture synthetic oil than it is to just pump it out of the ground. The whole world would have been doing it otherwise.
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Well they going to start now...
 
Slootvreter said:
Ha. So it wasn't a stupid question. I'd say corporate greed plays the bigger part. I for one don't fill up at Sasol. I realize that it will have no impact on them but it makes ME feel better :)
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Doesn't matter. If you live in the interior you're filling up with Sasol (Secunda & Natref refineries), regardless of which retail outlet you use.

If you fill up at the coast you're filling up with either Chevron (Milnerton refinery), PetroSA (Mossgas) or Shell (Sapref refinery), again regardless of which retail outlet you use.

The oil companies don't make real money through retail, profits come from wholesale.
 
Slootvreter said:
I'd say corporate greed plays the bigger part. I for one don't fill up at Sasol. I realize that it will have no impact on them but it makes ME feel better :)
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Even if Sasol wanted to it couldn't sell at any different price. You should put the blame where it lies, with the STATE. Besides, you're probably using Sasol fuel even if the pumps has another brand name.
 
I don't fill up at SASOL either even if i get their fuel at another station as far as i'm concerned my Rands aren't going to their pockets.
 
So if I fill up at BP or Sasol (inland) im getting the exact same fuel? What about the adverts that say cleaner fuel ...etc?? Is that a lie then?
 
Patty said:
So if I fill up at BP or Sasol (inland) im getting the exact same fuel? What about the adverts that say cleaner fuel ...etc?? Is that a lie then?
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The base fuel produced by refineries is the same. Each company then puts in their additives. (even then, companies swap fuel between depots so I'm not sure you're always going to get Shell when you fill up at one of their stations)
 
Ady said:
I don't fill up at SASOL either even if i get their fuel at another station as far as i'm concerned my Rands aren't going to their pockets.
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If Sasol owned each of their filling stations to a certain extent you would be correct (you'd be denying them the retail margin portion of the fuel price)
Unfortunately most are privately owned
 
Oh, I always thought SASOL = South African Super Overpriced Lubricants.

SASOL also produces plastics used for injection moulding. The dark blue parts of Tupperware are moulded with SASOL plastic granules.
 
Sasol shareholders must be very happy. In fact I think up north Sasol fuels were/are added to normal brands a few years ago by law and didn't people complain about the corrosion or something? This was when Brazil said enough no more Sasol please, so Sasol had a lake to get rid of.
 
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