School Website

@S1ght I understand making it easier for people however I can't take you serious if you using a free wordpress theme or a site that uses tables. Web design and development is to create your own online brand using the best methods available but just using free quick simple stuff is making a online page.

Any idiot can make a online page but to call yourself a web designer you need to know a lot more then just how to install a free theme.

But by all means if the school just wants something quick easy then do it, just don't go around saying you a web designer now and start looking for clients.

A few days ago I found 2 local big sites using the same free theme yet at the bottom it said "Designed by" different companies. I get so pissed off when I see people calling themselves web designers and developers yet all they do is charge people from R5000 - R15000 to upload a free theme.

@Xzib1t just btw the school you linked to is using a free joomla theme. See the demo here http://demotemplates.joomlashack.com/optimus/
 
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Would really suggest you follow the WordPress route - it's going to give you the best results for the least headaches. Please drop me a private message, and I'll try to give you what support you need along the way. Good luck.
 
EthanEllis said:
But by all means if the school just wants something quick easy then do it, just don't go around saying you a web designer now and start looking for clients.
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I see you have some pent up aggression towards some crappy web developers you've come across (don't we all:P)?
 
A lot of responses by a bunch of idiots (less shogun, he actually knows WTF he's talking about)

The first question that needs to be asked: What hosting does the school have in place? <-- this will give you the initial step forward in deciding what you're actually going to be using. It could very well be a Windows host for all you know.

If they have linux hosting somewhere, find out if they have cpanel access (I assume they would since how else would they setup e-mail addresses... however, some schools use a specific host which usually have no facilities whatsoever, think it was given by the department of education or something). Assuming everything, if they have cpanel, go and check if they're running Fantastico. If they do, just install Wordpress or Droopal or Joomla through there. No need for "blablabla.wordpress.org" and I have to raise the same concern that others did with your basic knowledge of the internet (which no offense, does seem basic)

HOWEVER

Nobody learns this **** from books or varsity or college (well, those who commented here and went to school for this profession are idiots then ;) )

This is a perfect opportunity for you to learn all things required with this. So why not? **** others who says anything about it. The school is obviously doing their ****ing job for a change and challenging their students to learn. If anything, follow shogun's advice at all times and ignore the rest of the idiot nay-sayers. Everyone starts somewhere and it doesn't matter how crap the first version of your site looks like, you will always improve on it and with the experience gained here look back and go "holy **** I sucked at this in the beginning!"

Good luck dude
 
shogun said:
Not at all i'm afraid. But you go ahead and trumpet about how you are a graphics / web designer and developer, and how this is an impossible task for Mokusei to complete by himself and his school mates. If you don't mind... in the mean time we'll suggest some viable alternatives for this fellow that don't require him or his school forking out for a professional web developer.
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+1 I doubt many schools could afford a real professorial web developer, for the budget they normally have and the following web design hack they would get I think this is better.
 
Surely there has to be SOMEONE at your school that knows a bit of html/css/php etc and can set up wordpress/drupal etc? Most hosting will install wordpress/drupal/joomla etc for you with a few clicks but I guess being a school they have some hosting on TENET or something.
 
AcidRaZor said:
A lot of responses by a bunch of idiots (less shogun, he actually knows WTF he's talking about)
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Hey, don't I know WTF I'm talking about? :p

@EveryoneHatingRecommendationsForWordPress:

I've been doing web development professionally for nearly 6 years now. I've built huge enterprise-scale web applications (it's my day-job, actually) and loads of smaller start-up websites (which is my hobby). I know my <DIV style=""/> from my .className and my #identifier. I know how to $("apply-styles").addClass() and $("something-cool").animate().

I was a huge proponent of custom-developed solutions and would've recommended that at the drop of a hat a couple of months ago. In my search to please clients with little-to-no budgets I decided upon WordPress. Developing a custom theme (as per my first post in this thread) will still teach the students the fundamentals of HTML, CSS and maybe even a bit of JavaScript if they decide to do something fancy. Customizing the theme is also a great introduction into the world of CMSs, without having to tinker too much with the innards and still keeping it fun. Having this foundation set out would be great for tertiary studies in web / software development after matric.

I would've loved it if complete CMSs like WordPress were available back in the day when I started doing web development - it would've made my life a hell of a lot easier. It's inevitable that someone with an interest in web development would move over and start building their OWN custom solution after using a prepackaged CMS for a while. Spending time customizing a CMS like WordPress just lays out a solid foundation for understanding best-practices later on.
 
FarligOpptreden said:
Hey, don't I know WTF I'm talking about? :p

@EveryoneHatingRecommendationsForWordPress:

I've been doing web development professionally for nearly 6 years now. I've built huge enterprise-scale web applications (it's my day-job, actually) and loads of smaller start-up websites (which is my hobby). I know my <DIV style=""/> from my .className and my #identifier. I know how to $("apply-styles").addClass() and $("something-cool").animate().
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That's nice, now go learn how to preload images you're going to use in animations.
 
So why aren't you doing it on your website then?
 
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