Scrap car with no papers

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Litha22

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My boss buys scraped cars from scrap-yards. Fixes them and resells. We have recently bought one. Unfortunately the previous owner has relocated with the car papers. We have no way of getting hold of him. Think he moved to the UK. Is there a way of getting papers for this car? We have phoned the bank, they want permission from previous owner to give us the vehicle papers
 
Its a concern if the bank still has the papers, the originals should have been sent to the owner after the car was paid off.
What generally happens is that the license gets really far behind in arrears and then the car gets scrapped. At that point you cant license it and will be in for trouble if you get stopped at a roadblock.
 
Yeah sweet blow all you can do really... If it's still financed with the bank in some form be prepared for them to send people to reclaim their property.
 
Rocket-Boy said:
Its a concern if the bank still has the papers, the originals should have been sent to the owner after the car was paid off.
What generally happens is that the license gets really far behind in arrears and then the car gets scrapped. At that point you cant license it and will be in for trouble if you get stopped at a roadblock.
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I think the arrears need to be paid before the car can be scrapped. They won't just write it off.
 
The vehicle was paid off. According to the bank. It was in an accident. The insurance company has written it off
 
Litha22 said:
The vehicle was paid off. According to the bank. It was in an accident. The insurance company has written it off
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Now getting hold of an owner who has moved overseas, I doubt he would even be willing to help in a matter of a car that was written off.

Good luck though, you need to strongly consider also writing this off, unless your Boss can help? even though I cannot see any legal means in which this can be resolved besides getting hold of the owner.

Tread carefully, you are now on dangerous grounds in regards to cloned cars in the space you are playing in, I would sell the car for scrap and move on.
 
thechamp said:
Now getting hold of an owner who has moved overseas, I doubt he would even be willing to help in a matter of a car that was written off.

Good luck though, you need to strongly consider also writing this off, unless your Boss can help? even though I cannot see any legal means in which this can be resolved besides getting hold of the owner.

Tread carefully, you are now on dangerous grounds in regards to cloned cars in the space you are playing in, I would sell the car for scrap and move on.
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Thank you. Thinks he knows he will have to scrap the car. Was hoping there was a legal way of obtaining the paper work
 
Something doesn't add up here to be honest.

My bakkie was written off by insurance recently. They wouldn't give me a single cent of the payout until I'd signed the yellow forms to do a full transfer of ownership to them...
 
ToxicBunny said:
Something doesn't add up here to be honest.

My bakkie was written off by insurance recently. They wouldn't give me a single cent of the payout until I'd signed the yellow forms to do a full transfer of ownership to them...
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Was about to say the same- as I understand, once the insurance writes the car off, it becomes the property of the insurance company (they paid for it, after all).
 
If the car has been scrapped how will the old papers help? I would think that you have to get the car re-registered and roadworthy to put it in your name and get a licence to use it on SA roads.
 
isie said:
Then the insurance company will have the paperwork
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Exactly - if the insurance scraps a vehicle ownership transfers to them. When my Polo was stolen I had to give the registration papers to the insurance, and the spare key.

There shouldn't be any need to contact the previous owner. Who did you even buy it from? Whoever sold it to you can't sell it without either being the owner or being a proxy for the owner.
 
If a car is written off and then bought from insurance and rebuilt it becomes a code 3.
Even if you could get everything sorted out you would need to disclose that to insurance who will either charge you a lot more or will refuse to insure it.

Honestly I think you need to get your money back, this is a right mess and I dont see a clear way out for you.
 
There's something wrong here... a vehicle that is scrapped by an insurance company will ALWAYS have the papers with it.
 
Even scrapped vehicles have a registration certificate. It looks exactly like a normal registration certificate and is called a "Certificate of Deregistration in Respect of Motor Vehicle". The owner will have to obtain a duplicate registration certificate and then that can be used to transfer ownership to a new owner.

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