Segment A cars

killerbyte said:
I am also looking at the Grand i10 with keen interest. The spec sheet is good and in some ways is very good (timing chain rather than a cam belt).
I will go and take a test drive tomorrow and give some feedback. I need a car with some space so a Picanto or i10 is not practical but I can't afford a car like the Rio or i20. So the Grand i10 is looking to be very attractive, but I also have to consider the Blue Sky Offer for the Figo 1.4 TDCi.

Removing any special pricing I am forced to consider the following 3 cars (and I would appreciate the input of the members of this forum):

Toyota Etios 1.5Xs (From R136 800)
Ford Figo 1.4 TDCi Ambiente (From R142 700)
Hyundai Grand i10 1.25 Fluid (From R149 900)
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I'd say you're better off with a petrol Figo if you don't drive too much as the fuel costa won't outweigh the car costs unless you drive a lot.

Grand i10 seems to be a good option

I've read bad things about the Etios. Rattles soon after purchasing, bad quality, etc...
 
ahoudet said:
I'd say you're better off with a petrol Figo if you don't drive too much as the fuel costa won't outweigh the car costs unless you drive a lot.

Grand i10 seems to be a good option

I've read bad things about the Etios. Rattles soon after purchasing, bad quality, etc...
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I am on the road now as part of my new job, not major mileage (500km per week at the most) but the cost of the fuel doesn't bug me but I like the idea of the diesel because of the extra torque.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Not the Vivo because you should be insulted by VW for knowing that it's a cheap cop out.

Haven't checked out the i10 but the Picanto is much the same and I've been very impressed with it.

The Dacia Sandero is a bit like the Vivo, another camouflaged sales trick.
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Yep, Kia or Hyundai is my vote..
 
Fazda said:
I know that it is called a Dacia in some European markets, but the workmanship is pure Renault - just a question....when does a car lose the stigma of its history - no matter how much it has improved?? :)
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Ask Alfa, they may be able to tell you ;)
 
Some input on the Figo TDCI - I have heard good things about them but they are the Ambiente trim level so you won't get all the modcons like on the Trend.

You lose some pretty nice features such as remote keyless entry, steel wheels as opposed to the alloy wheels on the Trend models, driver seat height adjustment, Bluetooth connectivity and fog lights to name a few. Heaven knows why Ford did not give us the option of the Trend model turbodiesel Figo as it was one of the cars on my list before I went with the i30 :(
 
wabbit16 said:
Some input on the Figo TDCI - I have heard good things about them but they are the Ambiente trim level so you won't get all the modcons like on the Trend.

You lose some pretty nice features such as remote keyless entry, steel wheels as opposed to the alloy wheels on the Trend models, driver seat height adjustment, Bluetooth connectivity and fog lights to name a few. Heaven knows why Ford did not give us the option of the Trend model turbodiesel Figo as it was one of the cars on my list before I went with the i30 :(
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The Blue Sky offer is for the Ambiente with Bluetooth at R130k which is a great price. But I agree with you, I am looking at the Grand i10 because it has a lot of modcons and since I drive for work I might as well be comfortable.
 
Fazda said:
Yes! A poor guy tried trading in an immaculate 159 (2012) that cost 428k less than 2 years ago, and the highest offer was 140 000!!
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If he is selling at that price let me know :)
 
Test drove the Grand i10 last week, car is reasonably spacious for the price. The only difference I noted is the larger size and improved interior trim. Otherwise the driving experience is not much different, except for the decreased body roll.
 
And my decision is made... just test drove a second hand i20 Glide (top spec level) with 30 000KM on the clock and its going for R150k. I must have that car!!! Now I just have to wait till I can afford it.
 
Fazda said:
I know that it is called a Dacia in some European markets, but the workmanship is pure Renault - just a question....when does a car lose the stigma of its history - no matter how much it has improved?? :)
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Unless something has changed since I last drove one(I had them often as rentals) there wasnt much Renault about them.
The windows wound in the wrong direction, the wiper blades moved in the wrong direction etc etc.
Maybe with the new one it might lose the whole stigma that was attached to it before.
 
Rocket-Boy said:
Unless something has changed since I last drove one(I had them often as rentals) there wasnt much Renault about them.
The windows wound in the wrong direction, the wiper blades moved in the wrong direction etc etc.
Maybe with the new one it might lose the whole stigma that was attached to it before.
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Old Sandero is a Dacia. New Sandero is a far improved vehicle.

The stigma associated with the French manufacturers nowadays, is due to their generally poor customer service levels. The vehicles themselves are superb.
 
Won't touch Renault or Puegot. The spares are expensive, the looks age quickly and the customer service is non-existent.
 
A car magazine rated Sandero the best in its segment recently.
 
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