Sentech & Infosat

I'm still going to place my bet based on a 3G or WiMax technology ...
this despite numerous concerns with Sentech management
let alone Telkom.
The existing IPW technology can handle 3x the throughput of iBurst
and with the next planned upgrade …..will be capable of much more.
I have heard “rumblings” that Sentech is thinking about removing
the current limit on local bandwidth … and will then re-package the MW solution to improve the bandwidth.
(They will also be watching iBurst as they need to compete with them).
Whilst this is on the table…. and after reading the iBurst forum, I’m certainly not going to consider an 802.20 based solution at this stage.
 
Note : What I did find a while back, was that the sat connection seemed highly unstable with MW. Would not stay connected for longer than 10-20 min. Maybe affected by variances in signal strength ?. Never had this prob with dialup though. The test i did this week, sat stayed connected thru the night. Will *test* some more soon

2nd note : I never could manage to share my satelite connection. Not a problem at the time though, my stuff coming thru sat, wife's stuff thru modem :D
 
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Luke, way back when when I managed an internet cafe, we used Wingate to share out the internet connection. It's not that hard, I just installed and chose an interface basically.

I also have no clue as to why satelite connections' contracts stipulate you must use an analogue connection as upstream. It might have been, that the lawyers back then, thought they were clever and technology-savvy and added the analogue part, inadvertanly restricting all the users from the choice out there.

Then again, Telkom might have a finger in the pie and made them do it? Conspiracy anyone?

My phylosophy : If you don't get caught, it's not wrong (or illegal)

I'm wrong on so many levels, but if you feel the need to run to your mommy (*cough* ic *cough*) she won't believe you when you tell her "no one said that if you don't get caught, it's not wrong or illegal!"

:)
 
Oh, and everyone knows that 128k can't be classed as broadband... and that even the "analogue" 56k modems now runs on a digital circuit.

Makes you wonder re: the contract + lawyer theory
 
I was trying the ICS route (win98) at the time as well as some freeware proxy server (vproxy seems to ring a bell). Re the analogue thing, Mweb was also marketing it in a ISDN/Sat combo package for a "Best of both worlds" experience. This was during the time of the related discussion in this forum.
 
Well I plan to share my connection using a linux box, will make my life easier with load balancing etc.

With windows xp though, you can just share the VPN connection, simple as that. But windows ICS is useless.

Luke7777, so the modem for upstream is on a separate box to the sat receiver?

Double Checked the contract again, definately no mention of preferred upstream connectivity. Infact at one point the mention "the line used to gain internet access" This is vague enough to contest if they ever try get clever. ;) Their definition of the service might be a problem. Sent them a mail to clarify it a bit as it contradicts their marketing

Also in the FAQ they mention that the connection can be shared between multiple machines. :D
 
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Ok, so I mailed Tiscali for some clarification on the contract. I have not included all previous mails just the relevant ones. This was several hours ago, they have not replied, They normally reply within 30 minutes. Guess I have stumped them. Notice that the reply from them seemed to avoid the question.

The Mail I Sent:
Hi

Clause 2.4 & the affect of the defination described concerns me, it mentions single user. The fag clearly states that the connection can be shared.
Secondly it mentions dialup, I intend to use permanent connectivity.

Please clarify/ammend these points

Kind Regards
Mervyn

Their Reply:


Dear Mervyn

Thank you for your email.

Please note that this Product is line based You would user and Analogue or ISDN connection for upstream connectivity and the information would be returned via Satellite .

Thank you


Kind Regards

Terence Palmer
TISCALI (PTY) LTD
THE COMMUNICATION COMPANY
42 Wierda Road West, Sandton, 2146, South Africa
Tel : 0860005656
Fax : +27 11 286 5573
E-Mail : [email protected]
Website : <http://www.tiscali.co.za/>

My Question Again:
Hi

I understand the concept, its not that complicated. Allow me to rephrase my questions.

From a contract/rules point of view... regardless of the technical aspects which I will handle.

Am I allowed to share the connection between my own machines?
Am I allowed to use any means of connection for the upstream?

As I say the technical/functional aspects are not a problem. Im just making sure that I will not in breach of contract.

Kind Regards
Mervyn

Will post the answer here.I'm sure some other people would be interested in the answer.
 
I are is doubting mister you're are answering is cause yes

Thank You,
Monkies @ Technical Support .com/VOKKENSTUPID
 
dbnnet said:
I'm still going to place my bet based on a 3G or WiMax technology ...
this despite numerous concerns with Sentech management
let alone Telkom.
The existing IPW technology can handle 3x the throughput of iBurst
and with the next planned upgrade …..will be capable of much more.
I have heard “rumblings” that Sentech is thinking about removing
the current limit on local bandwidth … and will then re-package the MW solution to improve the bandwidth.
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I agree about Wimax, that is the way to go. I as sure as nuts won't go near sentech even if they have the best bandwidth around.
 
noone said:
I are is doubting mister you're are answering is cause yes

Thank You,
Monkies @ Technical Support .com/VOKKENSTUPID
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LMAO

Thats what im hearing in my head each time they send me a mail. :D
 
Alchamy, while you're waiting for their anwser, some ping stats you've asked for earlier:

MW128 up & down
www.is.co.za
Ping statistics for 196.35.72.14:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 48, Lost = 2 (4% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 76ms, Maximum = 420ms, Average = 140msping

www.download.com
Ping statistics for 216.239.115.131:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 48, Lost = 2 (4% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 385ms, Maximum = 789ms, Average = 451ms

MW128 up / Sat down
www.is.co.za
Ping statistics for 196.35.72.14:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 48, Lost = 2 (4% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 326ms, Maximum = 654ms, Average = 386ms

www.download.com
Ping statistics for 216.239.115.131:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 48, Lost = 2 (4% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 824ms, Maximum = 1075ms, Average = 870ms
 
Thanks Luke, that better than Iburst is sometimes, I expected much worse. So I would be happy with those pings for browsing etc. The punks should be sticking the dish up 2moro. Will pay Tiscali a visit on monday and collect card provided the answer me nicely :D
 
noone said:
Interesting Fact :

Sentech only implemented a seperate local "hub" (meaning, the route local traffic on a faster local bandwidth circuit) after several months of users complaining about the poor service, both local and international

iBurst got that one right from the beginning... full speed locally, around 384kbps internationally. I'm talking single threads here... and it bursts!
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Care to comment on this one now? ;)
 
Luke7777 said:
I suppose you don't have DSTV then ?
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DSTV dish is twin LNB for dualview :)

Either way. These clowns did not send a response worth reading. They just sent the same rubbish back. I have mailed them again asking for someone without "retarded orc symdrome" to reply.

Luke7777 said:
Notice how it took 2 Iburst'ers and 1 ADSL'er to derail this thread. and then they say sentech is not stable :D :D :D
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lmao, ic still has his "derail thread" mission going.
 
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no no no... here's a lesson in derailing a thread :

#1 get as far off topic as possible
#2 make it so that other people respond to that "off topic" topic as much as possible

THAT is how you derail a thread my friends

As for iburst, I am already looking around for alternative, TheRodent, read my comic bru...
 
How much would you pay me to see my ADSL graphs over the last 3 months?

Because it's been running at 53kb/s 24x7. I haven't had lightning problems ever. In fact, my total downtime over the last 6 months has been 39 minutes. And that is due to the fact that I go down for a few seconds every night when my PPPoE session gets disconnected.

I can't be bothered by unreliable connectivity. And both Sentech, and iBurst have proven to be unreliable, and poor-performing, at best.

HomeDSL384/512 buddy. Or bust...
 
/me looks at the completely derailed thread :rolleyes:

Anyways just a little back on topic, apologies to all the derailers. :p

Still no real answer from the monkeys at Tiscali, I think I found someone with less communication skills than WBS.

Anyways decided its not worth the effort, I guess I will have to hunt for another idea.
 
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