Shammy PVP in Wrath

[kHayne]

Instead of derailing Ponolio's thread,

I hope shammies get their pvp (cant think of the right word...) awesomeness back in Wotlk

Cant wait to see how thunder works

If its how it is in the alpha, screw warriors as the first line of defense, get a line of shammies casting thunder while a army of players behind them push thru /daydreams

Yeah. I'm not sure how many classes are going to get knockback effects, but depending on Thunder's cooldown, it could be brutal in PVP. According to the dev's, they want to make Elemental the PVP spec of choice for shamans, and with effects like Thunder , and stuff like Earth, Storm and Fire (omg 25% chance to root on Frostshock!), Astral Shift and a second spellschool in the form of Lava Burst, it's easy to see how this can happen.
I'll definately go Elemental for levelling and depending on the healer situation at 80, may or may not stay that way.

Personally I think Spirit Link is either going to be rubbish (if it doesnt scale with +healing, and has a long cooldown) or OP (if it scales with +healing and has no, or a short, cooldown) for resto, and the buffs to LHW and HW are great for PVP, less so for PVE.

In fact almost all of the leaked Shammy Alpha buffs seem to be focused around PVP.

 

[Oculate]

Sorry for the derail yesterday

As you said on your blog, I would also like to know how strong the spirit wolves are

Looking at the other classes buffs in alpha, rogues become scary (poping in and out of stealth every 3 sec for 15sec ), warriors get to dual wield 2h'ers, doomkin's get a knockback (5yrds), mages become better aoe tools of destruction (Living bomb - perma aoe for 6sec), warlocks look like they get Hex as well (-75% movement speed + silence for 20sec)

So those wolves need to be dam strong

 

[kHayne]

Yeah, i hear ya. Word on the street is they might have a bash (stun) effect. I hope they also have some kind of sprint, like hunters pets, and are controllable unlike earth/fire elementals. Improved Shamanaistic Rage will also help out tons with being kited, but compared to what so many other classes are getting it looks like Blizz may be fixing old problems yet merely introducing a whole bunch of new ones. Story of our lives :/ .

REsto looks like it's going to be crap for pvp. Still no solution to mobility issues, still no hots or instants, except for 1 extra spell which may or may not be complete fail. :/

Elemental spec here i come baby.

 

[Oculate]

If they do have a bash effect, they need a hectic crit ability (to stick with the WC3 wolves)

but compared to what so many other classes are getting it looks like Blizz may be fixing old problems yet merely introducing a whole bunch of new ones.

Happens to hunters as well /truestory... Shamanistic rage should include a + movement speed %... its such a short duration, and its so far down the tree (EDIT), i guess thats why we have frost shawk

 

[kHayne]

why we have frost shawk

Which would be fine, if frawst shawk's range were further than how far a parlytic midget can spit. 6yards is absolute fail.

 

[Murdoc]

Where u guys getting this info? :O

 

[Oculate]

The info i've gotten, is from wotlk.wikidot.com

Otherwise theres official forums buzzing with talent leaks, rumors on sites etc